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[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Yup!

Motherboard, CPU, GPU models and serial numbers. Ram size and speed. Those were used during Windows activation as old as windows 95. But likely yes, a full list of every component connected.

Your Android phone collects every WiFi network it has ever seen and sends it to Google, so we should assume Microsoft does the same (Android can locate you without GPS by using your neighbors' WiFi signals as position identifiers, and can triangulate you to a few feet using the relative networks' signal strengths)

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (3 children)
[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

Cannot wait for the Motorola/GrapheneOS collab phones.

[–] msage@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago

And if you dont have Pixel, try /e/os, SailfishOS, Mobian, PostmarketOS or anything other than vendor Android.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Um... You're aware that your pixel was known to google before you graphened it?

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Never knew a google account, so it was known to Google but not to me. .. but while on the topic, know of a better option?

[–] ptu@sopuli.xyz 7 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago
[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

so it was known to Google but not to me

Right, but you can assume google knows the imei and other hardware details, so they can probably link you to your identity on other platforms.

There is also the baseband issue. It is currently assumed that manufacturers could have access to snoop your LTE/5g and WiFi traffic, because the software running most phone baseband units is closed and not audited.

So you are probably private, but if you really want a phone with no Big Brother, you should get one from Pine64 or Jolla.

[–] Reygle@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'd love to. I bought an early pinephone and after about a day of trying to make it do basic functions I gave up. I'd LOVE to have a real Linux option but in my experiences so far we're not there yet. I don't see a better option than Graphene at the moment- it's that solid.

[–] non_burglar@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, I agree. We might not have rock-solid solutions, but less google is better.

I keep a oneplus 6t just to test Linux phone options.

[–] mitrosus@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Wait, what is the solution then? Genz are not going to settle on 10 yo laptop. They are going to buy new expensive AI-ready windows machine, replacing with Linux will do nothing privacywise? The only viable alt is to buy some obscure Linux laptop or old device? How old should it be anyway?

[–] TeddE@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Oh, so to clear up confusion - switching to Linux destroys the local storage of the GDID, and Linux has generally much better privacy (to the degree the OS is involved - browser privacy is a related subject). However, it doesn't undo the past - if you previously signed in with your MS account on that system, Microsoft will have that record in perpetuity.

Best solution would be to wipe any system you acquire without ever signing in to Microsoft. While switching to Linux will not change any of the components serial numbers that Microsoft has, you will at least not be actively associating most of your web activity with your M$ account.

Tangent - if you're gonna do shady stuff, use VMs or TailsOS.