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[–] Andres4NY@social.ridetrans.it 23 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

@SuspiciousCarrot78 @curbstickle adb is not at all convenient compared to something like fdroid. I wouldn't consider that a real alternative other than in rare cases.

[–] SuspiciousCarrot78@aussie.zone 6 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (2 children)

LADB is a native android feature. Unless they plan to kill adb entirely, what's to stop me from doing this -

  • Download apk
  • Enable Wireless debugging
  • Pair the on-phone ADB client
  • Run something equivalent to: pm install /sdcard/Download/app.apk
  • Installation occurs through the ADB shell route.

Because if that works, "install from Fdroid" needs just a small tweak so that the Fdroid app submits the APK through ADB.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 12 hours ago

Enable Wireless debugging

not everyone has wifi at home, and this doesn't work without one. It's also very complicated for people. it is basically a wall around a garden.

also you either have to set adb over wifi to automatically turn on when connecting to that wifi, which is not that safe, or turn it on manually every time you want to install apps or updates. with that, the recent android feature to allow 3rd party stores to update their apps without a prompt goes out the window.

[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 25 points 23 hours ago (3 children)

The nonsense steps to even get there. The absolute nonsensical mess of lies in their claims to even do this in the first place. Lets be clear - if they wanted to block malware, they would need to be doing so from the Play store in the first place. So, lets highlight a few simple things:

  • It was only about 6 months ago that it was documented by a cybersec company that hundreds of malicious apps were downloaded quite literally tens of millions of times.
  • The number of malicious apps on the Play store have gone up, not down.
  • Banking malware has more than doubled in the past few years
  • The majority of growth (more than doubling) in the YoY were spyware apps - used for identity theft, extortion, and surveillance, and all on the Play store.
  • There are even ones specifically targeting Android TV boxes, again mostly operating unchecked on the Play store.

To even suggest installing apps (which, lets be honest, that is what they are calling "sideloading" - doing the thing you do on your PC all the time) from a different location is the issue is far from reality. So any "promise" from them is worth functionally nothing to me.

As I said, I'm leaving Android either way. I shouldn't have to go through such a massive number of hoops to install on my own device.

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 2 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

Haha nice! There's also this gizmo that looks really promising. I think this is the one where they were talking about an LTE module. Or yeah, could always just tether!

https://mecha.so/comet#overview

Also this DIY project that seems a bit more... Involved.

https://github.com/SPIRIT-org/SPIRIT

[–] irmadlad@lemmy.world 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)
[–] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 4 points 22 hours ago

What I'm hoping to go with is more something like a clamshell (think MNT Pocket Reform) or slider (like the old motorola droid). The Mecha Comet seems interesting but I'm not sure yet. I also like what WaveShare has going with the PocketTerm, but I want something other than a pi in there (I swore off RPi when they continued business sales and let prices skyrocket for the regular users who made them who they are).

I may also end up trying to put something together with spare parts I have, but we'll see if I have the time for that.