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[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 45 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

What blows my mind is that basically all of these fit in with fiscal conservative ethos.

  • Healthcare would benefit the most from economy of scale, which is the bedrock of corporation above the mom and pop level.
  • Education is literally capital reinvestment for sustained growth.
  • Housing is a commodity like like any other.
  • 32 hour work weeks are scientifically proven to increase productivity and decrease Fraud, Waste, and Abuse.
  • Taxation is another instance of capital reinvestment for sustained growth. Hell, it's (demi-god of capitalism) Henry Ford's "pay the line workers enough to buy my products".
  • The Green New Deal is not quite as cut and dry, but there is plenty of both "leveling the playing field to promote free market competition" against fossil fuel subsidies AND capital reinvestment.

Palestine opens a whole other can of billions of dollars of foreign government spending separate from the ethical concerns, which is less clear cut on market economics and would need to be an essay by itself. So I will just stick with the 6 out of 7 low hanging fruits for this argument, and mock the completely not fiscally conservating mess the Republican party has become.

[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

There was a time where I was moderate, willing to believe the word of conservatives who said they wanted fiscal responsibility. I now know that they are craven liars, and have become fully radicalized.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 6 points 12 hours ago

Preach! I still consider myself to be a moderate or centrist as a leftist libertarian (social progressive and fiscal conservative), and also haven't believed Republicans were actual fiscal conservatives since Bush Jr. They have been only social conservatives since arguably at least Regan. Still pissed off that insane Ayn Rand utopian individualists and Christian Nationalists became the entire libertarian movement.

[–] auntieclokwise@lemmy.world 14 points 19 hours ago (2 children)

Green New Deal is also incredibly sound economics and conservative ethos. Economically speaking, which is better: something you have to spend a bunch of time and effort mining for and then can only ever use it once or something you spend a bit more effort mining and manufacturing, but then can receive gains off your investment for decades? Gains that exceed your initial investment well before expected end of life.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 3 points 8 hours ago

And that's just the economics of the gains; completely forgoing the cumulative costs burdened upon society by climate-change (increased heating/cooling-costs, early deaths because of pollution, crops failing and the mass-migration as a result of that). Continuing with fossil fuel is very very dumb if you look at the medium to long term.

[–] Narauko@lemmy.world 3 points 12 hours ago

True, although we shouldn't pretend that the cost for building a coal mine or developing an oil field is more single use than a solar farm or wind turbine. Many oil wells and coal mines operate for decades with relatively small operational costs after initial build out. Time in production difference is not statistically significant enough to make that a linchpin argument.

The jobs created by solar and wind in R&D, manufacturing, and construction and maintenance, along with most importantly the carbon emissions benefits are the most relevant economic points. Nuclear should also be part of the Green New Deal, but fossil fuel companies successfully fear mongered that sector to death.

[–] JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone 18 points 22 hours ago

The conservatives abandoned ethos long ago in favor of being against everything the progressives are for.

One of the bits that blew my mind was watching foreign politics and learning other countries have right wings further left than our own left. Fucking Overton windows.