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[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago (2 children)

As someone with actual experience working in datacenters, this shit needs constant maintenance and repair. You can't afford to pay for my travel expenses to reboot a server.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 11 points 1 day ago (2 children)

There's a bunch of sealed underwater data centres and they found reliability went right up (see Project Natick). Underwater has the benefit of actually having cooling though ..

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 25 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yet Microsoft abandoned the idea because it was so fraught with commercialisation issues. Which is exactly what the experts are saying

Can't maintain, can't upgrade, can't repair, it pollutes the environment with abandoned shit and it doesn't scale

Reliability probably went up because of the extra expense put into making sure it won't immediately fail and need to be repaired

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm not saying the space data centres are a good or even viable idea, just saying you can improve the reliability significantly if you try. The space data centre planis a non starter, there's nowhere for the heat to go.

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yes, investing in reliability will increase reliability

You can radiate the heat with a biiiig long radiator but it doesn't solve any of the other problems or improve commercial scalability

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone -3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

You may note that this thread is talking about data centre reliability ..

Also you can't radiate heat in space ..

[–] ryannathans@aussie.zone 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can ONLY radiate heat in space..

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 16 hours ago

Yeah I'll pay that, you can't radiate it effectively enough for data centre applications though.

[–] peeteer@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (4 children)

The ISS has 475m^2 of ammonia filled radiators that like to disagree with you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/External_Active_Thermal_Control_System

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

The whole EATCS radiates 70kW, so less than one modern data centre rack. Helpful!

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 1 points 18 hours ago

Hypothetically, a relatively stationary (not doing a lot of accelerating and decelerating) "Space Datacenter" would be a perfect test bed for something like Curie point radiators. Might help with the size of radiator needed to produce the same effect, but that's probably the least difficult problem with that environment. The radiation shielding you would need would be... well astronomical.

[–] Trail@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Sure. What did it cost? How many flights to get it up there? How many human spacewalk missions to maintain it?

[–] justaman123@lemmy.world -1 points 17 hours ago

Yeah, I've been wondering why there's such a push against the feasibility of space data centers on a lack of cooling when it's in a vacuum where we have already solved temperature regulations. Are there good arguments for why this doesn't work for data centers in space? I mean I imagine other concerns will definitely make it difficult but this argument hasn't seemed accurate to me. I mean also I'm against data centers in general so ya know fuck them but from a reality pov like isn't that argument incorrect?

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca -1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also you can’t radiate heat in space …

How does the Sun work?

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Mostly emitting ungodly amounts of photons and radiations, as far as the earth is concerned. Is that actually cooling it though ?

[–] xthexder@l.sw0.com 3 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

Yes, all that emitted radiation does cool down the sun. It's why it has a mostly stable temperature instead of getting hotter infinitely.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 17 hours ago

Oh so youre saying we should convert the heat generated by the data centres to wide spectrum EM and emit that instead? Amazing! There should be no issues with outputting watts or kilowatts of EM from each of these assuredly numerous space data centres.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Right, I'm sure the hard radiation will help with that as well.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

You can't reboot a server remotely? My vast experience having been in one collocation once made me think that surely in big datacentres each server has a remotely controllable switch on its power source, like something that comes integrated with the rack itself? Is that not a thing?

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You can't remotely replace hardware.

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Did I say "replace"? Oh, sorry, I meant "reboot". Must have been distracted when I typed that. Silly me.

[–] jnod4@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

From experience, the remote "reboot" actuators sometimes they need to be rebooted themself

[–] jungle@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Well then you add a remote reboot switch for the reboot switch. Duh!