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it never was… like most American things, it was always just marketing
Oh? Tell me about your country then.
There have always been issues. There was a lot of precursor to this. But there has never been anything this bad.
America was a beacon for the world, despite our violations and blemishes. Relative to the rest of history, we were leading the world ina better direction,.
Nixon was out after Watergate. You don't have to bribe our doctors or our cops during traffic stops. While we're having issues with LGBTQ, we were a leader in treating people with respect for a few decades. That's our norm.
This is Idiocracy.
Treating people with respect, but also letting people die because they can't afford medicine or health care. Intelligence services selling cocaine and drugging their own citizens with LSD. Privatized prisons. Invading countries for their oil. Overthrowing democratically elected governments and fucking up regions all over the world.
Yeah sure
not haveing universal healthcare while bad is nothing like the crazyness of trump. As for the rest. Pia Vesta. Operation Condor. Private prisons showed up during reagan and is part of the downward spiral that got us to current and same with invading oil rich countries. Proxy shenanigans are also very prevelant outside of the us. So what im saying is the things you list in some cases are just common in the world not just the us and in other case were fought against and is part of what lead to trump. This is different mainly because the constitution is just being flaughted outright rather than being chipped at and scotus is not defending the constitution and half of congress is derelict in their duty to impeach him for flagrantly breaking the laws of the nation.
Operation condor started in the 70s... Pre-operation condor in the 60s under JFK
All your heroes are monsters, and that says more about you than them
im sorry. where did I list my heroes in this conversation? Yeah us was involved with that along with many other countries. again not just a us thing. europe, russia, asia, south america have all had things like you try to pretend is just the us. now I did address the uniquely us things but much improvement post ww2 came out of the us response to the depression. Anyway the point is what happening under trump is different. is worse. and is not business as usual as folks like you want to make it out. I honestly just assume its right wing shillery to normalize what they do but maybe you legit think this way.
You tried to wave away condor (and pretty much all of the US' evils) to post Reagan. My point was that you were either ignorant or lying
no. post reagan was specifically about privage prisons.
Obviously nothing comes close to what is happening in the US right now, and I do hope it's not to late to turn things around.
When was that?
Woah guys, we got someone who fell hard for the propaganda.
The US spread fascism around the world in the form of the most destructive industry man ever invented the military industrial complex. The US has only been without conflict for a very short time in all its history.
We have committed and assisted in multiple genocides and our destruction to the environment through our proliferation of polluting technology has poisoned every single human on the planet. By my estimates we have lost close to a billion people from pollution in the last 50 years.
While I will admit the current administration of outright thieves is shocking, this type of back room dealing had always been a part of our extremely corrupt nation.
Most of what you praise is literally propaganda and very little can be attributed to reality. Sure the US has had more decorum in the past, but that ain't saying much.
The CIA planted crack in black neighborhoods, the fbi killed all the civil rights leaders, our government injected black men with syphillis to see what happens,the end of Jim Crow just morphed into mass incarceration for black Americans, we committed a genocide on Native Americans, we have pedophiles running our government, we’ve destabilized hundreds of governments to plunder assets ……I could go on and on we’ve always been a fascist nation. For a moment I thought we might be improving but nope all hope is lost
Sounds like the UK.
Almost like both nations are colonial capitalist blights on the human species or something!
and South america has mostly dictatorships thanks to the CIA.
I imagine if you compile a list of the worst any country has done that it'd look a lot like this.
That doesn't excuse anything, but all those things don't add up to Nazi Germany or 2026 Israel.
We're working on showing you what fascism really is.
We are paying for the genocide in Israel. We are combining our military with the IDF. We are occupied by Israel. We are Israel
The fuck we are
We are. https://responsiblestatecraft.org/massie-israel-integration/
Blocked for me. What does the first line of that link say?
When??
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pride_parade
Yeah. For a brief moment in the 19th century maybe.
The USA has been the only rich country with unsolved racism for decades. Is that treating people with respect?
The idea that any G20 country has solved racism is absurd.
Like seriously... We don't have as many issues with racism against black peeps in Germany (as the US has), but that's because very few live here at all.
"Our" racism targets eastern Europeans and (in my region) Turkish ppl, but I guess that's not racist because they're close enough in skin tone? (/s obviously)
Hilarious. Should we tell Canada, Australia, China, and Germany they're not rich?
somebody opened wide for the koolaid
It was Grape Flavo-Aid, if you're gonna talk smack at least do it right...
That is a crazy way to diminish the reality that this nation only exists because of a holocaust and only became an economic powerhouse because of slavery.
America has never been worth a god damn thing. Some Americans are fine people, but the system, the nation? Designed to be diseased.
Snap out of your American exceptionalism fever-dream and step into the real world, please.