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[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 30 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

Just fyi IPv8 was written by LLM with full on hallucinated citations and references. It isn’t being taken seriously by anyone.

It didn’t even make sense. It relies on DNS for nat and the like. Deranged networking plans from the non-mind of an LLM.

I recommend taking the time to learn IPv6 properly. It’s actually quite elegant and brings back the peer to peer, endpoint to endpoint connection ability of the old internet.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 51 minutes ago* (last edited 49 minutes ago) (1 children)

I’m okay with IPv6, if I can get a hexadecimal keypad. I know, DNS solves it to a degree, but just pumping in link-local can be a keyboard dance.

Unfortunately, my ISP doesn’t yet offer IPv6 due to PPPoE to authenticate and authorize subscribers.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 37 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

Humans shouldn’t really be typing in IPs. Why not just use localhost for localhost and dns / mdns for lan machines? It’s such a nicer experience.

mdns works with link-local in the case of a private non connected lan.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 3 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Oi...well that sucks ass. A good idea, badly conceptualized I guess.

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 11 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

I wouldn’t even say it was a good idea. Like the end to end NAT free internet is the ideal. IPv6 was built for that.

Even if IPv8 was not slop it would reenforce the idea of nat and hierarchy.

IPv6 allows for a democratized internet where anyone can choose to self host. And anyone can connect to anyone who is self hosting.

Because of this it’s a bit more complicated. But ideology it much better than IPv8. It brings us back what made the internet great in the 90s and 2000s, but at scale.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

Probably true...but I just don't see it taking off...

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

IPv6 is now peaking over 50% of all internet traffic globally and trending up. IPv4 is today the minority of internet traffic.

In some countries like France IPv6 over 85% of all internet traffic. In Germany over 75%. USA 57% of all traffic. India 76% of all traffic.

Not a fan of Google but they keep statistics on adoption.

https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

I literally just got the notifiation from Verizon today that IPV6 was now supported by their network... Ubiquiti asked me if I wanted to enable it, my response is basically not until I understand it...

Then again, it took me 20 years to really understand IPv4, so it's likely I'm going to be decaying before I get v6. ;-)

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 3 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Have faith in yourself. I bet you could get things in a few hours with focused study if you have a deep understanding of IPv4.

[–] ShredderFeeder@shredderfood.net 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

LOL....my ADHD has gotten much worse with age... "Focus" is a fond memory. ;-}

[–] mholiv@lemmy.world 1 points 33 minutes ago

Ok. Then a week of passive absorbing at worst. You got it. IPv6 is more complicated but not that much more complicated. You already now IPv4.