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[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world -5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

The internet and AI are two different things.

The internet wasn’t taking your drinking water 5 years ago and it’s not taking it today.

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 4 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

lol the internet is 70% bot traffic today

wanna bet more and more of that is ai driven?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 19 minutes ago

You're missing the point so hard it's not even funny.

The datacenters hosting the internet are not the same datacenters hosting AI.

The ones hosting AI are the problem. Eliminate those, and the ones hosting the internet are fine (although could still convert to greener practices like on-site solar and closed-loop/greywater cooling systems, etc.).

Eliminate the internet datacenters and the AI corps are still going to destroy the environment, you just won't have access to wikipedia or the fediverse.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world -1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The things using the internet is irrelevant. The fact remains that the internet itself is not taking your drinking water

[–] baines@lemmy.cafe 2 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

i’m always amazed how it can be so hard for some people to think beyond whatever is immediately in their face

70% of the internet traffic is the fucking internet

just because you don’t like that doesn't matter

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Internet traffic is not the internet. Thats like saying cars and trucks are the highway. I can’t believe I have to dumb this down for you, but here goes: T highway is that asphalt thing that sits on the ground between two places, right? And cars and trucks are the things you drive on the highway. So like, in terms of emissions, the highway isn’t producing all those nasty emissions, the cars and trucks are. So if you don’t like those nasty emissions, you can regular the cars and trucks, but the highway isn’t at fault. You could reduce the emissions of the vehicles, replace the cars with more efficient busses, you could even just ride bikes on the highway if you really wanted to. But all these things are separate from the highway itself, see?

Just because you don’t understand how any of this works doesn’t change the fact of the matter which is that the internet is not taking your drinking water.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip -1 points 53 minutes ago (2 children)

By your own definition, then AI is now the internet. Prompts and outputs are the cars and trucks, while the data centers and models are the highway. 70% of the internet is running on data centers and models. What makes more of something, 30% or 70%?

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 1 points 14 minutes ago

Not even. The internet is the highway. The datacenters running the internet are the department of transportation. Average internet users are the compact hybrids, EVs, and cyclists who use the road. Prompts and outputs are the couriers driving various kinds of vehicles. AI datacenters are the giant trucks with smokestacks that smokescreen all the old grannies behind them.

The prompts and outputs traveling over the internet consume a negligible amount of energy. The bulk of it is consumed by training giant LLMs with hundreds of billions of parameters. A lesser portion is consumed by the inferencing those models do to produce outputs, which is done at the AI datacenters, and not what travels over the internet via internet datacenters.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 46 minutes ago* (last edited 44 minutes ago)

You’ve misunderstood. AI datacenters are not the highway. Prompts and Outputs are the cars and trucks, the AI data centers are the factories making the cars. The highway is datacenters and transmission media that do not house AI and do not require the immense cooling or power that the AI datacenters use. The highway and the things on the highway are two entirely decoupled things.

[–] jjlinux@lemmy.zip -1 points 57 minutes ago (1 children)

They WERE 2 different things, not anymore.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 46 minutes ago

No they are still two very different things.