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[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 27 points 2 days ago (1 children)

sorry all the water in this state is for cows and cranberries, and ginseng I guess, and people

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world -3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Always a good time to remind people that large scale agriculture basically destoys national waters, soaks up subsidies, and benefits a hand full of rich land owners

[–] Glytch@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

It also feeds people. That gives it actual value.

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

diverting water from the California desert to grow $10 a gallon almond milk, for some vegans crying about chicken. Yay

[–] TronBronson@lemmy.world 1 points 18 hours ago

Ya mostly feed the Chinese soybeans lol, we also make corn ethanol, which we subsidize, even more so since the war with Iran and the fuel shortages. We've literally destroyed half the country because its to inconvenient to farm the right way lmfao. Anyway have fun eating those newly legalized pesticides. Now 100% safe in America.

[–] feetandballs@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

It also suppresses people. Food is a human right, the way it is for every other animal. Why do rich assholes get to decide who has access to it? Is wealth a measure of whether or not someone should go hungry?

We lived happier (if not easier) lives before we begrudgingly adopted stationary agriculture as a response to unpredictable climates following the ice age. Those in power ensured agriculture (lock-and-key agriculture) remained because it was a reliable tool for suppression - its predictable harvest and consistent grain size make it useful for taxation. AND when you get your population hooked on grains you can instill a culture of weaning children earlier using oatmeal, meaning women can have babies more frequently (no longer lactating). The increase in population serves those in power by making their armies bigger and creating an impressionable population that you can further suppress with religion, etc.