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[–] YetAnotherNerd@sopuli.xyz 103 points 1 week ago (33 children)

Actual AI, learning models, not large language models hallucinating things.

[–] artyom@piefed.social -2 points 1 week ago (13 children)

LLM is "actual AI". I think the term you may be looking for is "generative AI".

[–] filcuk@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

In the old sense of the word, we don't have an actual AI yet, but it's true that LLM and AI have become interchangeable.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All AI is actual AI. It doesn't need to be real intelligence to be artificial, should be obvious. Are you telling me artificial grass shouldn't be called that because a goat can't eat it?

[–] mpramann@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

No, he's questioning the intelligence part and not if it's artificial or not.

[–] JohnEdwa@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Question the artificial instead. It can mean man made, but can also mean fake, and LLMs are definitely excellent at faking being intelligent.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip -2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Do you question the grass part of artificial grass? It's obviously not grass.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except it is a fairly good artifice of grass. "AI" is not a good artifice of intelligence. GAI would be, but not LLMs or anything else we have today. They aren't trying to mimic intelligence. They're trying to mimic the output of intelligence. They don't think; they reproduce.

[–] TheBlackLounge@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Except it is a fairly good artifice of grass.

Good for what? Looking at? It's not gonna satisfy a goat.

We only care for the look ("the output"), and we don't expect more of it, or sell it for more than it is. That's why it's not a controversial term for astroturf. It wasn't controversial for AI either until very recently. In 60 years of AI nobody has split hairs over output of intelligence. It's justified but weirdly misdirected anger.

AI is a perfectly cromulent word for the thing.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Mostly for the thing we care about grass for: looking at and touching. We don't grow grass to feed goats. We grow grass for the appearance of grass. It serves no practical purpose in most places where grass is grown. Obviously it does have a place in nature, but not where you're putting artificial grass. The only purpose in those places was touch and appearance. It handles that fine.

AI is a perfectly good term. It's just an overused one. It was great when it was in academia, and everyone knew what it meant, or in a sci-fi story, and people didn't think it existed. It's currently been used as a marketing term. People hear it and think it's intelligent. It isn't. The goal of using it for marketing was to create this distortion. They don't care to inform people of the meaning because the only reason it's valuable is because of the confusion.

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