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[–] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago (5 children)

Not all data centers are for AI. Practically anything you do on the internet lives or transits through a data center. A very serious answer to your question is simply "the internet". AI data centers are just bigger and more dense than the ones that have been around for a long time.

[–] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

yeah I'm pretty sure the long game is only half AI. AI is the sales pitch. Taking over the internet and home computing is the long game.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Regular non-ai datacenters don’t have all this noise

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 days ago

This isn’t an “AI” data center specifically.

[–] JackbyDev@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

(At least according to this comment) this is a normal data center.

https://lemmy.dbzer0.com/comment/26779485

[–] d15d@feddit.org 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Are you sure about that? I haven't been near one but have a single dell poweredge in my basement and it's fucking loud without diy noise insulation around it. I can only imagine the noise a full building of these things is making.

[–] d15d@feddit.org 8 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Since I'm getting downvoted and I'm genouinly curious, could someone explain how AI data centers are worse on a noise level than data centers for other purposes?

I'm not saying they are quiet, I just don't see which hardware for AI is so different from non-ai that it makes a big difference in noise production.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago

There are a few examples where they run turbine gas generators for power. In those cases the noise (and pollution) are in an entirely new class of problem. They just do so much compute.

[–] NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 days ago

Turbine generators onsite to manage power spikes and reduce the company's cost of buying power, in musk's megadatacenter case, the cunt didnt even get permission, he just ordered it done, and the community suffers.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Traditional datacenters usually came in one of two general forms, Colocation datacenters where anyone can rent rack space in the building, and your hyperscaler datacenters like AWS and Azure.

Colocation Datacenters are usually only partially full of servers at any given time, and are often rented by private enterprises running small time web applications or even just internal tools.

The hyperscalers are worse, but the business model is overbuilding capacity but not all the compute is actually being used at any given time. Workloads are variable usually.

It’s not that these datacenters can’t be loud, but rather that due to their lower power usage (compared to AI or Crypto before that) they don’t usually have to be.

The problem with AI datacenters is that they are designed to maximize their capacity and run full throttle 24/7 365. These facilities are bigger, are completely full to the brim with servers, and those servers are all working very hard nonstop. The thing about computers is, the stronger they are and the harder you push them, the more power they require to run. When electronic devices of any kind use more power, they generate more heat. Too much heat will also kill these electronic devices, so they need more cooling. Cooling apparatus makes noise, and the more you have of it, the louder it gets.

The TL;DR of it all is that AI datacenters are designed to maximize their compute capacity, which maximizes their power consumption, which maximizes the heat they generate, so you maximize the cooling, which maximizes the noise.

There’s a separate issue back the the “Consumes more power” step where some datacenters can’t be sated by the local power infrastructure so they have to find ways to supplement the power they get from the grid with additional noisy things like gas generators and such.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I do not like the recent use of the word "compute" as a noun, it's such incredibly obnoxious boardroom bullshit speak. Compute is a verb. Otherwise great comment that explains the situation pretty well.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Ok.

Which noun would you prefer for the overarching generalized concept of computation sold as a product?

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Over the internet? Cloud computing, like it always has, or just use the word computing, or processing power, or any of a dozen different phrases we already use for it. Every time someone uses the word compute as a noun a techbro jacks off onto their earnings report.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

You can’t use the word “computing”, it’s a gerund that represents an ongoing activity, it can’t be unitized into finite units. “Processing power” is not a noun, it’s a phrase.

Compute is not a boardroom term, it’s an engineering term. It’s used by professionals because it’s efficient, practical, and makes the most sense linguistically in the context it’s used. It may be inelegant, but it’s a function term for an ugly, unnatural thing, it’s not supposed to sound pretty.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Measure it in energy use like we already did. It's a dumb term techbros use to get investor dicks hard.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Energy use is the not the thing being sold, and never was.

It’s an engineering term that engineers use to easily and efficiently describe the thing being built and sold. It’s not for the benefit of investors, it’s for the benefit of other engineers so they can easily describe the thing being talked about.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

All words are made up.

It’s an accurate and useful word for describing something that previously did not have a word. Pretty simple stuff.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It did previously have words, but an adjective was shorthanded into a word and it's stupid.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

No, it didn’t, that’s why compute is used now. Compute is a mass noun, shortened from Computation, also a mass noun and it’s a perfectly reasonable and accurate word. Also compute is not an adjective in any context, you’re thinking of a verb.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Ok so you apparently never took grammar so arguing with you is like playing chess with a pigeon. You're just kinda strutting around the board, knocking over the pieces and shitting all over the place thinking you're winning.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

You’re projecting. In this conversation you have so far:

  • Tried to unitize a gerund without adding a measure word
  • Mistaken phrases for words
  • Confused adjectives and nouns
  • Ignored the validity of mass nouns as a whole

I don’t think you have even a conceptual understand of Grammar, and I suspect you only know English as a second language

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

Gerund fuck yourself, compute is a douchebag word used by douchebags. Lick my gerundle.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's also not in the dictionary so it's still bullshit, obnoxious, and honestly just sounds stupid.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s absolutely in the dictionary, it’s perfectly plain and inoffensive, and it sounds perfectly descriptive of what it is.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works -1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I tolerated the use of literally literally meaning figuratively but I draw the line at compute as a noun.

[–] Jason2357@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I would love to hear a better noun representing comodified computer processing as differentiated from storage, or network bandwidth/throughput.

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 days ago

Commodified computer processing sounds fine. Measure it in kw/h or other unit of energy use. Like we already did before techbros started using it at investors.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Sounds like a personal problem

[–] edible_funk@sh.itjust.works 0 points 3 days ago

Yeah, I opened the dialog with my personal feelings on the matter.

[–] EncryptKeeper@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Yes I’m sure. I’ve worked in a number of standard compute and colo datacenters for years and I haven’t experienced anything like that even in the parking lot of said datacenters. I’ve taken breaks to quietly read in the lobbies of said buildings.

[–] Rothe@piefed.social 3 points 4 days ago

But the reason most new datacenters are build is AI. AI is the cause that the number of datacenters are spiking, not any other poor excuse.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Currently, AI accounts for 20% of data center power usage. By 2030 it's projected to be 50%.

[–] protist@retrofed.com 1 points 3 days ago

Yes, but until AI, there weren't nearly as many data centers and they were much smaller. Now massive data centers are going up all over the country, and no, hosting the internet is not their primary purpose