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he has to apologize for being aligned with what voters want? isn't that, as political scientists call it, the whole fucking point of democracy?
The point of democracy is getting a paycheck from AIPAC as far as DNC leadership is concerned.
You of course know that america isn't really a democracy. It's a republic by design. And of course what it is in reality is a whole nuther something.
This dumbass "republic not democracy" take has got to die already.
It's true. When people say democracy, they usually mean direct democracy. That ain't what we got. We have a representative democracy, often called a republic. And even at that, the party establishment control who we can even vote for. So we only get to choose from the representatives they give us for the most part.
Nobody means direct democracy when they say democracy. That's not really a thing
You can speak for every single person on the planet. Oh, my bad. Just ust be right than.
A republic is a type of democracy. Specifically, it's a representative democracy.
When people say democracy, they usually mean direct democracy.
And even at that, the party establishment control who we can even vote for. So we only get to choose from the representatives they give us for the most part.
This just isn't true. The majority of democracies around the world today are representative democracies, and people colloquially refer to them simply as democracies.
That's partly true to varying degrees depending on what country you're referring to, but it also isn't that simple. The methods the establishment uses to control who gets party nominations are mostly indirect (i.e. media manipulating the narrative, PACs and dark money to campaigns, etc.). I think you're being overly cynical - which is fair - but we have more power than you think we do, we're just not very good at using it. Cynicism itself is one of the ways that the establishment controls who gets elected.
In short: the establishment has a stranglehold on democracy not because our democracies are fake (flawed, maybe even rigged a bit, sure, but not fake), but because they have us out-organized.
I agree that nearly no countries are direct democracies. But most people don't really know the difference. Just look how many people assume trump was the choice of the majority of americans. They don't know what the elctoral college even does. They think that they are in a direct democrqcy, though they don't know the name.
Cynicisim itself does not mean one doesn't participate in the process. I onow how it work, I know how badly the cards are stacked against me, but I vote anyway. And I read up on the local elections to make an informed decision. But I know that of the few who do vote, the majority don't spend much time reading up on cadadites.
And the establishment wins not because it is better organized, but because it has contol of more money.
A representative democracy like the US and a republic are literally the same fucking thing
Yes, I was being lazy typing. But when people say democracy, they usually mean direct democracy. And based on context, that was the meaning I took.
It is a democracy, just a shitty type of one. There's a bunch of different types and only like one is direct representation where every citizen votes on every issue and every time humans have tried that, they get real particular about what qualifies as citizen so it's all more or less the same. Anyway, if you're past high school you should probably retire that line of thinking because it's reductive, useless, and actually false.
Also, I would like to see a workable plan for increasing what we vite for without going full direct. But it's really hard to remove the influence advertising can have on such thing.
When people say democracy, they usually mean direct democracy. That ain't what we got. We have a representative democracy, often called a republic. And even at that, the party establishment control who we can even vote for. So we only get to choose from the representatives they give us for the most part. So what we have is the illusion of choice.
Nowhere in the world has that form of direct democracy.
Hm, you should maybe google that before you say it.
Provide example. Because there's no place that has a complete direct democracy with every citizen voting on every piece of legislation like you say.
You put added words that I didn't say. Nice try. The specifics you picked out tell me you already know the answer. Good job googling. Clearly you also know your are wrong, so now you are trying to change the statement to fit your interpretation of what I said. Fancy.
Direct democracy means every citizen votes on every thing. You're the one that said direct democracy. It's not my fault you don't know what the words you're using actually mean. You should work on that.
Ah, but it is your fault that you don't. The definition of direct democracy is not what you say it is. You have repeatedly made false claims. Where as I have not.
Take a way the overt racism and bigotry and the DNC and GOP leadership play the same game for the same team.