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[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 35 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why they do this:

After the first three years, Volkswagen is charging ev customers €150/year to see the charge level on the app, remotely start the air conditioning, schedule charge and so on.

Any tinkerer is thinking "well, if I am paying this extortion just to see the charge level on the app, then I want to exfiltrate my data in home assistant or similar, getting better stats and so on"

So they blocked the API with Google play integrity signatures

Now, instead of spending money on engineering ways to block uncertified devices, they could have simply introduced an official API with rate limits and stuff.

The fact that they noticed all those "unauthorized accesses" it's prove that people just want to pay for a lightweight API access, not a 250mb app that takes 4 minutes to remotely start the air conditioning

After all, we're talking for €150/year for accessing the data of a €1 iot sim card using 0.0001€ of compute time. There should be enough margin for that.

[–] ranzispa@mander.xyz 2 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

Sorry if I ask, what does it mean to remotely start air conditioning?

Do you mean you can start it while you are not in the car? What's the purpose of such a feature?

[–] Wispy2891@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

It's a nice quality of life feature, you enter a fresh vehicle instead of scorching hot After being parked for hours in the summer sun. But I would never pay a €150/yr subscription for that, fuck them

[–] hamsterkill@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

On a hot day, cool the car down before you get in. Same for the inverse of wanting to heat the car up before you get in when it's super cold.

[–] QuandaleDingle@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

It's for when it's hot outside, you're leaving a store and you want it to be cool when you get to your car.

[–] Evotech@lemmy.world 7 points 10 hours ago

Too bad the people in charge and developers of sensible mind are not the same people