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[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago

Are you not aware there are a number of majority Muslim states in the world? There is only one majority Jewish state and you want it gone, while being suspiciously vague about how you want to accomplish that.

There's a good case to be made for the Roma to have a state, but their history is being nomadic (so where would that state be?) and there doesn't seem to be the will within the Roma people to form a state.

Since you're making silly comparisons with other ethnicities, do you think it's wrong for indigenous people to claim a cultural connection to the land? If it's wrong for Jews to feel a connection to the land of their ancestors then it must also be wrong for indigenous people to feel a similar connection to the land of their ancestors? for that matter, do you feel it's wrong for Palestinians to feel a connection to the land of their ancestors?

Personally I'm pragmatic. Everyone has to live somewhere and people have a right to live where they were born, otherwise you end up with stateless people who will inevitably be oppressed. Like the Roma. More than 80% of the Jews in Israel were born there, so they have the right to live there. I was born on land that was taken from other people in the past, but I have a right to live in my country, because where else would I live?

I hope that many countries would allow in Jewish if we see a repeat of the antisemitc hatred of the past. We are currently headed in that direction. But I do recognize that antisemitc movements in the past and in the present are international movements (oh the irony that the real global schemers are the antisemites). So there's no guarantee that there will be any country that will give safe harbour to Jews... except for one.

I bring up the Night of the Long Knives to remind you want happens to socialists that become adjacent to fascists. Y'all are so busy congratulating yourselves for seeing some problems with capitalism and discovering antisemitic conspiracy theories for the first time in your lives, you don't see the pattern you're following.

The best argument for a Jewish state is to just read what people post on this site.