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[–] bobbyfiend@retrolemmy.com 77 points 21 hours ago (3 children)

IDK if any of this is what it looks like, but it's in the context of complete diplomatic incompetence for a decade. None of these people know what they are doing on the international stage. They made their careers as US mob bosses and bullies pretending to be politicians, and don't understand anything beyond that scope. When Trump could no longer pull world leaders off balance with stupid handshake tricks, he looked like an idiot for a while. Whenever he or his lackeys encounter someone who can't be bribed, intimidated, or extorted they sputter like Elmer Fudd because they have no other tools.

[–] takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 4 hours ago

I mean look at US delegation.

  • Kushner - son in law of trump, a real estate guy
  • Witkoff - a stupidest person in any room he enters
  • Vance - zero experience in any negotiations
  • then the Pakistani proxy which supposed to negotiate on our behalf, but because he is proxy it is like playing game of telephone
[–] normanwall@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago) (1 children)

Trump is used to negotiating from a position of power because he was born rich and would use lawyers to do his dirty work. He's never had to learn how to actually negotiate so he's trying to use threats and blunt force.

He can't buy the pot this time

[–] phutatorius@lemmy.zip 8 points 5 hours ago

That's not negotiating, that's extortion. And he's not even good at that.

[–] tempest@lemmy.ca 4 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Yes... A while.... A very long while

And yet he was voted in again.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Maybe if the dems had bothered to make a platform and run someone competent we wouldnt be in this mess. But they didnt.

[–] Mertn33@lemmy.world 1 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

That is the first time I here about the Dems for about the length of the current war. Where the fuck are they? What are their policies? What is their strategy? They need to activate themselves and pull America out of this Trumpian disaster

[–] relativelyrobin@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Infighting and bitching about each other and blaming a straw man for not stepping up instead of stepping up.

Go run for office. Go join a campaign. Go donate or volunteer. They are like you. Act.

[–] Mertn33@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago

I am not an American citizen, neither am I in America. I can help with IT skills if you know where I can direct them.

[–] 4am@lemmy.zip 12 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I’m starting to think that he wasn’t but we just didnt collect enough evidence at the time so now we will never know

[–] relativelyrobin@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago

That’s the insidious side of them accusing the 2020 of being stolen so adamantly. You can’t turn around and do the same for 2024 without walking straight into copying the same behavior (albeit genuine rather than projection). This takes away a lot of strength from the argument, normalizes and waters down stolen election drama.

I think there is evidence, but it’s not made a big deal of. The media conglomerates are complicit. Their investors want the same corpocracy late stage capitalism that the tech bros and grifters do. Collectively, they have taken so much wealth and control over our system that it’s hard to even market one particular crime in all the deluge.

They didn't even sentence him for felonies he was convicted of. It’s like they just collectively decided not to pursue any legal action against the president.