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[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 11 points 16 hours ago (2 children)

My favorite part about data centers in space is it may actually be impossible from a physics standpoint to build the heat radiators large enough for even a small one. Even though space is cold and would seem to make sense, it is also a destructive vacuum and to radiate even a small amount of heat outside of a shielded core would take a huge array of radiators

[–] Nouvellalia@lemmy.world 11 points 16 hours ago

No, it's totally possible. Not with any technology we've ever built, maybe not with any technology we can build, but physics doesn't preclude it outright.

Your point still stands though. It's a promise that's impossible to meet within the lifetime of the investors.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 5 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It’s possible, but not economical.

For basically any “space datacenter” scenario, imagine putting that same thing in a vast desert instead. You’ll find it’s easier and an order of magnitude cheaper.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 2 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Yeah, maybe not impossible, but I mean extremely unlikely. I found a thread on reddit that had examples and a spreadsheet https://www.reddit.com/r/IsaacArthur/comments/11kp7s4/how_large_of_a_heatradiator_would_a_spacecraft/

To run a data center in space you would need some kind of reactor producing around 100 MW. If rejecting 100 MW at 800 K

A= 100,000,000 / 0.85×5.670374419e−8×800

The number is the Stefan-Boltzmann constant (σ) https://physics.knox.edu/OnlineHW/zTest-PhysicalConstants.html

A≈5,065 m²

So roughly:

5,100 m² of radiating surface

That is a square about:

√(5065) ≈71 m per side

If it is a double-sided radiator panel, the physical panel area could be about half:

2,530 m² of panel, about 50 m × 50 m, assuming both sides radiate effectively.

Also temperature matters enormously so

At emissivity 0.85:

Radiator temp Area for 100 MW
300 K ~256,000 m²
500 K ~33,200 m²
800 K ~5,100 m²

So the answer is about 5,000 m² (lol this is like "a football field" on each side) at 800 K, but balloons to absurd levels like hundreds of thousands of m² if you are trying to dump room-temperature waste heat which there would be a significant amount of. That is for a single small data center at current power needs. In the US alone data centers use 176 TWh (https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/R48646), so there is no chance we are going to be migrating a significant portion of it into space.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

800K is 526C! You can't run a datacenter at that.

80C (still very hot for datacenter hardware coolant) is 350K. And there are other challenges, like effects from being in LEO, or proximity to wherever the solar array is.


And this is just one of MANY ridiclous engineering challenges. Another great example is that GPUs, memory, and SSDs get random bit flips in orbit, and the issue gets worse with smaller lithography: https://www.itpro.com/server-storage/high-performance-computing-hpc/367323/hpes-supercomputer-helps-iss-astronauts

There's tons of spam about "solving" this after the Tech Bro boom, but I don't really buy anything I've seen. Nothing but a bunch of lead (or the Earth's atmosphere) is going to stop fat gamma rays or extremely fast nuclei.

[–] hamid@crazypeople.online 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

800K is 526C! You can’t run a datacenter at that.

Yeah, the temperature was an estimate for the nuclear reactor that would be needed lol, I tried to explain that most of the datacenter would be closer to room temperature which would require absurd sizes of radiators

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago)

To be fair, 100MW is pretty big.

AI doesn’t actually need that much. I’m pretty sure entire models like GLM 5.2 or Deepseek v4 are trained (and served) on a much, much smaller scale than a 100MW cluster.

But if that’s the case… why even invest in orbital data centers in the first place?

Why not desert ones? Why all this cash there instead of actually improving LLM architectures!?

There are so many nested levels of absurdity here. It’s all just total mania, with zero punishment to those doing the funding because they are too rich to feel any consequences.