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Text: Amazon's electric cargo bikes have arrived in DC.

Image: A four-wheeled vehicle that appears to be a cross between a bicycle, a go-cart, and a mini-truck

Response text from high t alpha shemale @gluetaster: that's not a cargo bike man that's a loopholemobile

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[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 50 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Lmao at the helmet. This country is a joke

[–] adarza@piefed.ca 13 points 4 days ago (1 children)

it's a bicycle helmet. if you were riding around d.c. on any kind of 'bike', you'd be the fool to not have one.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I mean, yes I know. It like, in what world is that a bike? It’s obviously just skirting the laws, and the helmet is a hilarious addition.

‘Lookit me! I’m on a bike !’

Yeah, sure buddy.

[–] toddestan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I think the pedals are even more hilarious. It's not like the driver is going to be providing any useful motive power with them, or is going to be able to move that thing with the electronics not operating. At least the helmet has a chance of being useful by preventing the driver's head from smacking the plexiglass windscreen in an accident.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago

Oh gosh, I didn’t even notice those! :p

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)
[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Not comparable in the slightest.

These are fully man powered and tend to do scenic routes at a relaxed low speed. Don't want people spilling all over. The driver can also see basically 360 around them and is incentivised to prioritise safety being responsible for a group of tipsy people. I don’t think there common either so los priority to make a new class label.

The amazon ones are electric, will go in normal traffic to go wherever the package needs to go, employee pushed to hurry up. the priority will as always be the speed of gaining profit. Barely able to look behind. And if these test units are deemed good they will start popping up every.

Of course when its about the pure label, both legally seem to pass for bikes and neither actually should.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Lol, they do the exact same thing. You limit one, you limit the others, they’re built around the exact same bicycle laws. To say they aren’t comparable is missing the entire bloody picture here.

And the article goes into how not every party bike is for drinking… you’re clearly missing the point if you’re bringing this up.

The others aren’t electric, they’re pedal assist, just like these can be too. Once something’s a bike, there’s other limiting factors to get into, but these are both bicycles for the sake of relevant laws. Why are you saying they aren’t comparable?

Both can go in bike lanes or in regular traffic lanes since they fit the definition of bicycle, which means they must actually be on the road like bicycles in most places.

You’re now just making shit up to make a point. Well done.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sorry but who hurt you? No need to be rude.

My last sentence was pretty clear that when it comes to current legal label they are the same, The same as your personal bike even. To the law these are all comparable. Can ride on bikelanes, dont require any traffic license. (At least where i live)

Except your article does state some places do treat them differently:

In some locations, the driver is required to have a chauffeur's driver's license to operate on public streets.

But my point is they should not count as the same at all and thats an opinion i am free to add to this discussion, they are build differently for different usecases. They need their own respective laws fit for the areas they ride, size and max speed. There is nothing safe about allowing these on bikeslanes.

I would even say for party bikes, they don’t all compare among themselves either.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

If they don’t, than courier bikes are banned, children carts are banned… these are based off courier bikes that already exist, pushed to the limits of the legislation. Just like anything else ever made really.

They have size limits and other limitations, they’re being followed, so they are defined as a bike. What about accessible four wheeled bikes for the less abled, Oops your ignorance just got those banned, well done.

Don’t like it, go cry somewhere else. You are mad at Amazon, not the legislation, go whing to someone who cares.

[–] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Why would you want to ban them? I actually quite like the concept, way better then actual cars. They just should not be in the same class as normal bikes. Them being in the same class is asking for problems.

If you ask me the current law is way overdue to overhaul the traffic code to allow many different new classes of transportation.

But who the fuck hurt you to lash out like this? Go get some sleep please.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because that’s what your legislation limitations are gonna do…

Do you not think about this further than that? Jeeze you really are ignorant.

Lol, you messaged me, not my fault you didn’t know what you’re talking about and needed to be educated.

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world -1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Yeah the first time one of these is t-boned by a Camaro I'm sure the helmet will do the trick

[–] plantfanatic@sh.itjust.works 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

You understand the helmet is for if you fall out… yeah? Or other scenarios. A helmet does no good with a regular bike when a car hits you too.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So just like any other bicycle that would be in the same situation…?

What’s your point?

[–] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Most bikes aren't the size of a minivan, genius

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

So… something thats easier to see…?

And these are based off of already existing courier bikes. Stuff already exists that’s this large.

Yeah that’s really a point in your side. Sure you want to try to be snarky?

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Those absolute animals! No helmets!

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I mean in other countries they have different laws. Don’t wear them in a rickshaw, but if those existed in NA legally you probably would need to.

[–] LadyMeow@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

They have a sorta rickshaw where I am, I don’t remember the pullers nor the riders having helmets. Though, no clue what the laws would be. Even if there are some, they aren’t enforced.

[–] SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

It gets worse, some cities even have specific bylaws too. So going from city to city in my province you could be breaking the law or be perfectly legal.

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Can still fall/be ejected sideways.