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[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

But apartment buildings and shit? When they hit yours first? Fair game dude. That’s how war works.

No, it's explicitly not. I know you're American and thus skipped the entire part of History class based on American war crimes and the 200 countries that signed agreements to not do war crimes, but you are describing war crimes. Explicitly.

But if someone starts one with you destroy them, that’s literally how war is.

No, that is how you create a state of permanent war. The civilians that hated their government? They now exclusively hate you. They will spend the next 500 years attacking you asymmetrically doing 'terrorism.' And you will have EARNED that terrorism.

The US was rightfully attacked on 9/11. Because they were doing this. Because they always do this. When you kill civilians you create future terrorists that will dedicate their death to you.

[–] DanceMomsSavedMe@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The line being used from Russia when they did this to Ukraine first is that they had military targets.

So if that's true and Ukraine says the same thing where is the war crime?

Also if the citizens hate you because you defended yourself from being invaded then fuck them. That's not your problem as long as you can defend yourself from them invading you again.

You shouldn't be hated for defending yourself.

[–] marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today -1 points 3 days ago

The line being used from Russia when they did this to Ukraine first is that they had military targets.

When your enemy is making a mistake, copy them. - Son Fu, Fart of Warts.

That’s not your problem as long as you can defend yourself from them invading you again.

You won't be able to. Especially with as porous a border as Ukraine has. It takes one person going from Russia to Romania and then crossing that unfenced border to pose a threat to a Ukrainian school in ten years. It takes one person deciding they've had enough for the Evil Ukrainians that killed their wife to drive from Hungary into Ukraine and suicide bomb a government office or a bank.

You shouldn’t be hated for defending yourself.

You won't be, you will be hated and forever targeted for killing civilians. Because they don't care about your shitty little regime, they don't care about your shitty little war, they don't care about anything but surviving their own regime. And all you do by killing civilians is strengthen the enemy regime.

People that would have protested internally in Russia will fully support the Russian invasion, because the evil Ukrainians killed their parents.

People that would have never picked up a gun will do everything in the power to kill Ukrainians, even after the war is over, because the Evil Ukrainians killed their family.

People that actively worked against Russian imperialism internally will now decide that the Evil Ukrainians are worse than the Russians, because the Evil Ukrainians killed their kids.