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I give up.

I tried left and right to try to install an email server so I could degoogle my life.

But therechnical barrier is thick and Google keeps adding more to it. Forget it. I can't even get thru the installation process much less trying to get my shit off Google.

I figure, I don't actually have any need for my email addresses. Just like my phone number. I never call anyone. I'm going to discourage my kids from using email at all. I'll remind everyone I know that I don't use email at every opportunity I get just like I remind people to not call me and that my phone number is not available.

Between spammers and Google, I just don't need this headache in my life. My mom is much less technically savvy than the average pet. So Google will just siphon her data and when the megabits are full then you just delete the old stuff.

You don't need it. No one will spend their life reading your emails when you're gone or watching your videos or listening to your recordings or viewing your photos. There's no need to worry about just deleting the pile of shit you've accumulated. I'm this done.

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[–] somegeek@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (5 children)

What is a good, paid email service that is

  1. Not expensive
  2. Can be payed wity crypto
  3. Can use my own domain

?

[–] zitrone@europe.pub 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

if sending cash by mail is also an acceptable anonymous payment option, https://mailbox.org/ maybe something for you

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

+1 for mailbox. Even though I pay with credit card. They're outside the country so worst case, the US knows I use them. That's fine.

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 1 points 2 days ago

Thanks. No I can't send them cash

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] somegeek@programming.dev 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I've heard bad things about both. Proton implies a lot of lock in and you almost can't use it with custom clients (thunderbird, aerc)

Tuta's support is pretty much nonexistent.

[–] Dremor@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

There is a local relay that allows to basically use ProtonMail with whatever client you want to. It's a bit more work, for sure, but it allows to use their encryption without having to install any addon on your client.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Proton encrypts your emails. Clients like Thunderbird aren't capable of handling that (yet).

[–] jeremiah_@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I have a service that I'm providing as a beta at the moment. The code is all Free Software (Debian, Stalwart, Bulwark) and the data is sovereign to Europe (SEAL level 4). Hosted in Sweden, Finland and soon Norway. All run by a Swedish company without any US corporate involvement so you're not subject to Chinese or American jurisdiction (which means no US Cloud Act) but you are subject to European jurisdiction so you have GDPR and DSA protection, e.g. the right to be forgotten. Beta access is here: https://sverige.email/en/sign-up/

[–] drkt@scribe.disroot.org 2 points 2 days ago
[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What advantage are you trying to get with crypto?

[–] somegeek@programming.dev 4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Being able to pay easily. I'm in a region with no access to visa,master and other international payment methods.

The only simple way for me to buy products from otger countries is with crypto.

[–] Appoxo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago