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[–] HerrBeter@lemmy.world 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

If we move to a broader perspective than just lights, there is nothing that physically forces the man to follow whatever traffic contraption we throw at him

[–] hildegarde@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 15 hours ago

Traffic lights encourage drivers to move quickly, and ignore their surroundings. They tell drivers to trust the intersection to be clear if the signal is green. This means that if a prudent and cautious driver makes the single mistake of misreading the light, it risks a high speed colission.

A 4-way stop would have slowed traffic, likely preventing fatalities in this case. Even if the driver missed the stop sign, the cross traffic would be slow enough to not push the SUV into the corner of the intersection. At the same time there wouldn't be pedestrians in the corner, because 4-way stops allow pedestrians to cross quickly, and doesn't require them to wait directly next to intersections.

This is an urban road. It was a choice to prioritize traffic speed and car throughput over pedestrian safety. This is the inevitable result.