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It's so weird that the left has been put into two very odd boxes, "libs" and "tankies". I see so much, valid IMO, hate for both them here but also the only ones ever mentioned. It feels like the American conservatives actually managed to succeed at doing something, and very well so, with this as I really doubt this would have happened naturally. It's really fucked up, and I'm a random Swede and this shit has soured even our own forums, online and IRL discussions etc.
Tankies themselves use liberal as an insult. There's definitely a difference between the two.
The word liberal has become a blade with no handle that everyone in the world holds differently when they stab at their enemy. Basic Yanks use it wrong, tankies use it as a slur against basically everyone, and pretty much only left-coms and economists use it mostly the same way, but they don't see eye to eye on much else.
I have tried to simply drop it from my discourse since it has so many unintended connotations that can cloud your meaning.
Of course American conservatives can succeed, they have the entire US billionaire class supporting them. They have been succeeding for decades, even when a Dem president has been in office they have steadily pushed US policy further right.
But you hear critique of the left more than we critique the right here because why would I bother arguing with someone who has an ideology and worldview completely irreconcilable to mine?
Wait I thought liberals were on board with capitalism? In what sense are they left wing?
You can have a mixed economy with the state regulating to avoid market failures.
You mean neo liberal which is right wing economically.
No, I'm pretty sure I mean liberal. Like Adam Smith type shit.
What the fuck is a tankie? Is it whatever nonsense is a neoliberal? What the fuck is a neoliberal? At this point, these points read like stupid trying to make sense of liberal, conservative, and libertarian? Like, the fuck?
libs are not part of the left, please