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[–] godsammitdam@lemmy.zip 23 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Given I'm new to lemmy, I learned the difference between some of the instances. Specifically lemmy.ml 🙃.

"Nah man, someone with good policy but they're caucusing as a democrat? Don't vote for them, they're not calling for seizure of private property, they're all scams!"

So you want me...to vote for the conservative? Like, wut?

"Start your own revolution!"

Uh huh. I'm ready for the call, but just as Lenin himself argued, a single person like myself won't help the people dying right now that way...the first person killed wouldn't be a billionaire, it'd more likely be myself, friends, family, or neighbors given the state's monopoly on violence.

They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren't expecting me to have already read it 🙃

[–] iocase@lemmy.zip 17 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Someone who doesn't consider atrocities committed by dictatorships or totalitarians in the name of "communism" as real or a problem.

[–] heartSagan5@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

I'm not sure what you mean by that, but anyone who denies the holocaust or other genocides are bad people and should be resisted.

That includes the genocide of Native Americans, Armenians, Palestinians/Gazaians(?), the Rohingya people, the Ukrainian people, Darfur, the Hutis, Bosnians, Cambodians, Tartars/Baltic Nations/Chechans/etc... under soviet imperialism, etc...

NONE of these are acceptable and fuck anyone who whitewashes these because they think it was necessary for their ideology

[–] Sharkticon@lemmy.zip 0 points 1 day ago (2 children)

According to .world anyone to the left of Reagan.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Tankies think that anyone trying to fix the system instead of burning it down is a fascist.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I mean the system does need to be burned down. You can't fix a machine that's doing exactly what it was designed to do. You tear it down, maybe repurpose some of the parts, and build a different machine that doesn't do what the previous one did.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Despite how relatively rough it is now it's not anywhere near as bad as it was in the "golden age" of the 50's or any of the times monarchs have lost their heads. If the "burn it down" crowd can't work with others then they're not the people you want building a new nation.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I work with others just fine. I do several different community volunteer projects every weekend, educate anyone willing to listen on how fucked everything is and how supporting any part of the uniparty will only continue to make things worse, join book clubs run by socialists, and help spread the word of actually good candidates at every level of government that run on third party platforms. This is how you begin the work to destroy and repurpose the machine.

[–] nullspace@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I'm glad you're able to do those things. A lot of people talk the talk online without actually living it offline.

That being said, I think "the uniparty" is just another way of saying "both sides bad," a phrase uttered by right-wingers and right-wingers who fancy themselves fence-sitters while exclusively attacking left-wing candidates.

It's a term that sanitizes apalling right-wing behavior while downplaying the work of progressives who take beatings, from "friend" and foe, while trying to accomplish anything that actually helps people.

I've no doubt that I just angered a few tankies by even calling members of "the uniparty" progressives, but as I said they'll call them "genocidal imperialist capitalists" regardless.

[–] Ryanmiller70@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago

I call them that because I've seen them time and again compromise with right wingers and many of them side with them on bills they didn't even need the votes for. Even the "progressive" stuff they try to put forward isn't progressive. People love to praise Obama's ACA forgetting it was Romney's health care act. People call Biden "one of the most progressive presidents we've ever had" forgetting that he gave massive amounts of funding to ICE and made lives harder for marginalized groups on his way out (I won't bring up Gaza cause that's just a given). He went on about raising the minimum wage....over the course of several years after he would be out of office anyway and not to any amount that would actually help people.

I don't care if this comes off as "making perfect the enemy of good". I care about standing up for what I believe in and so far the only candidates that run on what I believe in are third party candidates which is why I spend time helping them and voting for them. I live in a state that's been deep red since the 90s and has only gotten more and more red with every election both big and small, so helping a party that makes friends with right wingers is pointless to me.

[–] plutopos@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

Unless the system™ resides in a country that historically opposes the USA

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

"trying to fix" = voting for genocidal imperialist capitalist political parties

[–] ManixT@lemmy.world 0 points 1 day ago

No. That is inaccurate.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

netanyahu approves this

[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 5 points 1 day ago

tankies are what you call, conservatives that never vote. conservatives large majority outvote left leaning groups, with alittle help of voter suppression.

[–] tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

They told me to read State and Revolution. They weren’t expecting me to have already read it 🙃

Good, but what about Imperialism, the Highest Stage of Capitalism?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

so lenin told you to vote for imperialist genocidal pedophile party

[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Apparently the ongoing genocide in Palestine would be so much worse now under the evil witch Kamala Harris. There was no other choice but to enable Trump.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 1 day ago

thats strawman but uniroincally more civilians died under biden administration