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[–] vane@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

SpaceX is another flop. It's main income is from NASA. $30B in long term debt, they estimate $1.75T valuation only year they showed any profit was in 2024 and it was $242M. Just to compare the private company that literally landed on moon Firefly Aerospace is worth $7B valuation debuted last year. -38% on NASDAQ. I'm not from US you're living in some bad dream right now. Wake up people because they are fucking you in the ass and you're clapping.

[–] sp3ctr4l@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

I agree that SpaceX is a fiscal shitshow.

Would you rather own half of it for no cost?

Or own none of it for no cost?

If you own half of it for no cost, you have a substantial ability to ... tell it what to do, with its people, its assets, its stuff, its technology.

If you own none of it for no cost, you do not have this ability.

In both scenarios, if the stock value goes to zero, you lose nothing, because you paid nothing.

Again, you seem to be struggling with the concept of nationalization.

The government just takes stuff over, because it says so, and it is the government.

No one is compensated, no one is paid.

In the US, cops can do this thing called asset seizure.

You get pulled over for a dead taillight.

You own a carwash and you're on your way to deposit the month's excess cash into the business account at your bank.

Cop decides you smell like marijuana, finds your cash and your well kept accounting records.

Doesn't matter, that might be drug money, cops take the money.

Imagine that, but with stocks instead.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

But is it critical infrastructure ?

Country should own roads, hospitals, power plants, water, lend land for farmers instead of Bill Gates owning 1 / 4000 of your farm land, communal housing, things that serve people so country should make sure everyone have access to it. Not what serve corporations and rich and push money there. Probably half of your 401k money are already there if you follow the dots.

It would be better to nationalize or buy office buildings from corporations and use this money. Tax their assets from tax havens. Tax them until instead of crying they start begging. Now your country are treating those companies like little babies.

You have different mindset, that's what I'm trying to explain.

You should have free healthcare and free education like in Europe. Cheap transportation across country in trains, bike lanes. Cheap food and houses. Be happy. Why you can't travel by train from New York to Los Angeles ? Russia that everyone laughs from and hates because their politicians are idiots, they can travel from Moscow to Vladivostok.

Instead of that you're launching farts towards moon and chasing demons in computers.

People over power.