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GSM Phones North America

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GSM (Global System for Mobile communications) is a cellular telephony standard that belongs to "second generation" of cellular technologies, aka 2G. First GSM networks went live in 1990s, but today most of them are being wrongfully shut down. This community is for appreciators of these fine Vintage Mobile Phones and those who fight to keep these phones and cellular networks alive.

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American 2G Cooperative is a start-up non-profit cellular phone company in USA, and I (Mychaela N. Falconia) am one of its founders, currently serving as President & CTO. We seek to build a new GSM cellular network in our great country, a specialty network specifically designed to serve the needs of Vintage Mobile Phone users who reside here. The network we seek to build shall consist of the following components:

  1. Physical GSM services in those small select locations where we can obtain the necessary spectrum. There are a few select locations with PCS1900 spectrum vacancies, and there is a much larger set of locations (albeit still rural and remote) with available GSM850 spectrum.
  2. Roaming-capable core network. At the present time the very unloved GSM/2G network of T-Mobile USA is still up in many places, but they artificially block access to it for their own native users and for users of TMO-parented MVNOs. Yet users of SIM cards issued by foreign operators (e.g., Mexican Telcel) who roam on TMO experience much higher quality of service, without any artificial blocking! When A2GC becomes a physical GSM operator in some little remote corner of rural America, operating under a license from FCC, we'll be able to use FCC rules section 20.12(d) to compel TMO into letting us roam on their network, with the same level of roaming service which they provide to foreign SIM cards.

A lot of information about A2GC and progress of our work toward the goals listed above has previously been posted in /r/vintagemobilephones community on Reddit. However, our team's ability to post in that forum has recently been disrupted by hostile actions on the part of Reddit site-wide admins, necessitating the present refugee-mode migration to Lemmy. Just to be clear, VMP community on Reddit loved our content, it always got significant upvotes, and we can only assume that VMP mod team welcomed our contributions as well - but Reddit site-wide admins got in the way and thereby made life worse for all GSM/2G users in North America, blocking communication between the new 2G-serving cellular phone company and its base of would-be service subscribers.

Over the coming weeks and months we are going to post more content here, eventually recreating the full repository of knowledge that once resided in VMP community on Reddit. However, let me close this post with some important legal and contact information.

A2GC is a non-profit corporation seeking federal tax-exempt status under Internal Revenue Code section 501(c)(12) as a mutual or cooperative telephone company (please note it is a different type of tax-exempt non-profit entity from the usual 501(c)(3) - see IRS publication 557), and like all tax-exempt non-profit entities, we are required to publicly disclose our management structure, bylaws, financial details and so forth. While our website is still under construction, the key basics are as follows:

We are a Delaware corporation, our incorporation file number with the state of DE is 10180871, and our federal EIN is 33-4896531. Our physical office address is 16870 West Bernardo Drive, Suite 400, San Diego, CA 92127 - however, because we don't employ any full-time staff, only part-time volunteers, in-person meetings at our office location are available only by appointment. Contact details for our current corporate officers are as follows:

Ms. Mychaela Falconia, President & CTO: falconia@usa2g.org
Ms. Jessica Westerman, Secretary: secretary@usa2g.org
Ms. Shannon Hogan, Treasurer: treasurer@usa2g.org

We sincerely apologize to our users-in-waiting for having to take this detour, i.e., for having to take a break from our actual work of building our new GSM cellular network and spend time and energy on Reddit-to-Lemmy migration instead - but those Reddit site-wide admins forced our hand by blocking our ability to post in the original community. Please stay tuned for more technical and network-operational content that will be posted here shortly.

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[–] mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I would need permission from _ITX_ (founder of original VMP) before I do what you suggest. And since there does not appear to be any way to contact him other than through the site from which I am banned, and since no one seems to be volunteering to be the needed non-banned human bridge, we (A2GC) are now looking into hiring someone to do so on a paid basis. Many people do need extra cash these days...

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unless ITX trademarked the community name itself, I don't see any legal issue with reusing the community name one-for-one. Still, if it's a concern even alternatives such as c/retrophones or c/retromobilephobes ('retro' sounds less dated than 'vintage' in any case) would be catchier than c/gsm_phones_na from the standpoint of community growth.

Even with full moderator cooperation in migrating a community to Lemmy, Reddit shadowbans comments linking to Lemmy, so the best case scenario (assuming community mod cooperation) is probably what r/piracy does in designating Lemmy as an alternative, with perhaps a pinned thread promoting it.

If your company has three employees and your account was banned for posts unrelated to your involvement in that community, perhaps another employee could create an account to represent the company for that purpose?

[–] mnfalconia_a2gc@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Unless ITX trademarked the community name itself, I don’t see any legal issue with reusing the community name one-for-one.

Moral thresholds tend to be higher than legal ones.

Still, if it’s a concern even alternatives such as c/retrophones or c/retromobilephobes (‘retro’ sounds less dated than ‘vintage’ in any case) would be catchier than c/gsm_phones_na from the standpoint of community growth.

My current plan is to make every reasonable effort to bring this situation to the attention of _ITX_ and negotiate with him in good faith. If he doesn't care, brushes me off or whatever, then I will make a new post here delivering said news, and solicit input of this community for better naming. I assume the actual rename should be easy, just create a new community and make the old one read-only, right?

Reddit shadowbans comments linking to Lemmy,

Ouch - I didn't know they scooped this low, thank you for alerting me so I can avoid that false path! I knew there were and are evil of course, but apparently I was far too naive in not realizing just how evil...

With this shadowban situation, two follow-up questions arise:

  1. If a non-sitewide-banned human sends modmail to a subreddit mod team - kind of a special form of PM - will the presence of a Lemmy link inside cause that modmail PM to be blackholed without reaching its intended recipients?
  2. What about links to resources which then contain further links to Lemmy? Suppose we get our website up at www.usa2g.org, include a link to this Lemmy community in there, and post comments on Reddit linking to usa2g.org - will those comments also get shadowbanned?

so the best case scenario (assuming community mod cooperation) is probably what r/piracy does in designating Lemmy as an alternative,

I see the wording they use: "Should this sub ever get taken down, we have a Fallback Forum"... Given the subject matter of piracy, such "Fallback Forum" advertising seems (and actually is) appropriate. But Vintage Mobile Phones are not a law-skirting topic like piracy, no one is threatening to shut down forums or subs about this harmless hobby, hence the same or any similar wording won't fly, even with community mod cooperation. But I feel that community mods should have every right to link to the website of a retro-phone-oriented cellular carrier - and if that carrier uses Lemmy...

If your company has three employees

Change "employees" to "founding members serving as officers", but otherwise correct.

your account was banned for posts unrelated to your involvement in that community

Correct, I made a separate post detailing everything that happened.

perhaps another employee could create an account to represent the company for that purpose?

We are looking into this route currently!

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

If a non-sitewide-banned human sends modmail to a subreddit mod team - kind of a special form of PM - will the presence of a Lemmy link inside cause that modmail PM to be blackholed without reaching its intended recipients?

I haven't used Reddit myself since leaving in 2023, so my understanding of the shadowbanning could be flawed, but it seems to mainly apply to comments. I suspect it wouldn't apply to DMs or modmail, though I don't know if a moderator could link to Lemmy directly in a pinned thread.

Edit: Per this, not all communities necessarily filter links to Lemmy, though ones run by Reddit staff members presumedly would.

What about links to resources which then contain further links to Lemmy? Suppose we get our website up at www.usa2g.org, include a link to this Lemmy community in there, and post comments on Reddit linking to usa2g.org - will those comments also get shadowbanned?

It's automated, so non-Lemmy links wouldn't be removed just for linking to Lemmy themselves, but might get removed if perceived as being self-promotion.