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You would need to be extremely racist to think the good guys won the Opium War or the wars of European conquest in the Americas or Africa, and even centuries of propaganda spin don't change that. And there are cases like the Siege of Constantinople in the Fourth Crusade that was rightfully vilified even at the time.
You would have to lack a certain kind of thinking to take this quote that was posted in the memes community seriously
Definition of a meme according to the Meriam Webster dictionary. "an amusing or interesting item (such as a captioned picture or video)" looks like an amusing captioned picture to me.
If we're truly being pedantic, this is a meme as it is an idea shared and spread in a culture.
Are you familiar with the concept of sarcasm? Or contextual reading?
Indeed.
Also just naive to think that there are "good guys" and "bad guys". When you dig into the nuance of any conflict its almost always complicated.
Did you guys just completely miss the joke or something? I mean it's not subtle or anything..
The joke refers to the addage that history is written by the victor, but that just isn't true.
Exactly. That is part of the joke.
Norm understands that it's not true, he pokes fun at it because most people do tend to take it as fact. He ridiculizes how silly that thought is.
Ill have to take your word for it. As written, it doesn't seem that way to me at all.
I can understand that. Norm was a guy that went heavy into sarcasm and irony in his jokes.
Reading the text as is would make you understand it differently if you didn't know him.
You're right, I don't know him, but I still think you're making up a deeper level of humor that wasn't intended.
"Luckily the good guys have won every single time" is a very direct jab at historians always casting themselves as the good guys.
You're all up in here like "wull ackshually this is a post modern commentary on feminism because he's used the gendered phrase 'guys' and you just wouldn't get it because reasons".
I already told you it's ok if that's what you think. I don't see it as "deep humor", for me it's pretty obvious.
The last part of your comment is a straw man fallacy. Also, I don't think I'm the kind of person that bends over backwards into cognitive dissonance just to defend a joke, chill.
Oh man. The last part of my comment is a joke. Im mocking you. You seem like you'd be really fun at parties. Go shitsplain jokes to someone else.
Ok, you win lol
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