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Doug Ford banned speed cameras. The City of Ottawa posted the raw speed data from before and after the ban. This chart shows the percentage of drivers going 15km/h or more over the posted limit. (feddit.uk)

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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Please read the label on the y axis, then my post again.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

The percent of high end speeders? Yes, the y axis is the percentage of drivers at or above 15km/hr above the speed limit. Each dot represents one of their monitoring locations.

A traffic counter cannot differentiate one driver from another so it can register the same driver multiple times. What looks like a percentage increase could be the same speeders you had before registering multiple times.

Again, this raw data is aggregated meaning they're not tracking it by license plate number. This is flat, X vehicles went through, here is the average speed. That doesn't change from 2020 to now, meaning the ONLY stat we actually care about in real life (how fast are the cars moving on the road in front of a school) went down as cameras were installed, and are now going back up after cameras were removed.

I'm not sure what I'm missing or what you're trying to imply.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

You are making my point. X number of vehicles. There’s no differentiation so it can see the same vehicle multiple times. Someone’s speeding one can repeat the action and be counted as multiple speeders rather than multiple incidents of the same speeder.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

Which is the point - one persons speeding 5 times through the area or 5 different speeders doesn't matter to the pedestrians or the kids. Its still the same danger, and it's still the same increase were seeing.

I'm still not sure what your point is - the traffic cameras reduce the behaviour, regardless of why or the who. Now that they're gone, the behaviour we care about is getting worse again.