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[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 0 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

And without speed cameras….how did they prove this?

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 2 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I hope you're joking? Traffic counters (the two little black wires that you often drive over) can track vehicle speeds. Even if they didn't do that, the traffic cameras could still track average speeds without needing to issue fines.

[–] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

A traffic counter cannot differentiate one driver from another so it can register the same driver multiple times. What looks like a percentage increase could be the same speeders you had before registering multiple times.

Traffic cameras getting a rough estimate of speed is plausible, but if they can differentiate vehicles accurately enough not to register the same driver multiple times, wouldn’t that be a speed camera which would have been illegal to use here?

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 hours ago

Correct, they cannot differentiate between drivers, and neither can the speed cameras still in use for speed tracking.

But the point that pedestrians and kids going to school where these cameras were will care about is numbers of speeders, not if its Joe vs Brenda who's doing the speeding. If before there was much less speeding and now there's more, those kids are at a higher risk.

Even if Joe took a different route, one away from high-risk areas like school zones, and didn't change his habits, who gives a fuck?? There is lower risk for accidents in the areas where kids are being dropped off or walking through. I advocated for additional safety zones around other high-profile zones too - high volume trail crossings, libraries, major parks, waterfront zones, etc. Protect the biggest risk areas from speeding and people might get used to driving slower