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[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

That's just your misunderstanding of the term. The chat is encrypted, no lies about it, it's not end-to-end encrypted.

I was pretty sure someone is going to bring this up! "It uses HTTPS so its Encrypted™, you are just too dumb to comprehend it!"

well, yes, point me to a chat service that is not encrypted on the wire nowadays. I still think it is false advertising, because their clear intention is to make the user think their service is somehow more secure than others, while that is not the case. why would you advertise privacy and encryption, if not for arguing that you the provider cant read messages?
Ironically the owner of telegram is repeatedly posting on his channel about how much more secure telegram is over whatsapp, which is an actual end to end encrypted messaging app (but with other problems, like questionable key handling)

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You know, if you end-to-end encrypted, but mishandle keys, it's actually demonstrably worse than if you client-to-server encrypted but there was no confirmed cases of anything leaked.
Nobody is misleading you because you have deeply held ideas on what words should mean.

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Nobody is misleading you because you have deeply held ideas on what words should mean.

if your definition of encrypted means telegram is an encrypted messenger, than "encrypted" is literally nothing more than a meaningless buzzword, since all messaging services do some kind of encryption.

[–] Nalivai@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

My definition of "encrypted" means that something is encrypted. You know, using cryptography.
Your definition of encrypted means that something is end-to-end encrypted, with only two corresponding people having keys. And we actually have a term for that, it's end-to-end encryption.
I understand where you're coming from, but only one of us using this word correctly.