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I'm really glad you can put words into my mouth so you had something to argue against lol. Loser behavior, but I expect nothing less from those that choose to be livestock.
I think you might have mistaken what they wrote there.
You're both on the same side, find enemies to fight :)
What words did I put into your mouth? You're complaining on a forum and generalizing a group. Now I'm complaining about your complaint.
Then you called me a loser because you'd rather do that than admit you're doing nothing to help the situation.
I've probably done more than most to help the situation. By chance have you organized with your neighbors yet in case ICE shows up on your street? Because I have.
Have you knocked on doors for candidates you believe in? Because I have.
Have you lost anyone to the concentration camps in your family? BECAUSE I HAVE.
So listen here, livestock, I've probably done more in the last 2 years, than you have done in your entire life, especially considering the quality of your posts.
You want to make a better world, go organize with your neighbors. Do that first, and then you'll have some merit in my eyes. Better than simping for controlled opposition that will throw you under the bus when it's politically convenient.
In my initial post I asked about standing up a new party?
I have organized with my neighbors.
I'm lucky, I haven't had any of my Mexican family abducted. I'm sorry that you have.
I have done local actions to support local progressives.
I'm shocked that you are making comments that cause disinterest in people participating in politics while also claiming to canvas for your local politicians though.
I believe that pushing for local progressives is the best path forward to fixing the Dem party. I HATE people pushing complaints and generalizations like the Dems have the same hard line that the GOP does.
You have no merit to me either. You jump to name calling very quickly. You make a lot of claims and provide no solutions.
I'm not simping for the Dems. But I'm also not going to play games and act like ignoring them will help when it's more helpful to convert them to progressives
What you're shocked at is that I see the Democratic Party for what they are, and am willing to still work on their behalf IRL because no other viable solution exists within the current structure of our government. I also don't believe voting will actually help us anymore inside the current structure, because I believe a bullet box is needed more than a ballot box right now.
However I take every avenue available for a better life for myself and others, even when I don't believe it to be THE solution. Nor does this change the fact the the Democratic Party has a history of rolling over for Republicans. And are currently using Trans people as scapegoats. I can be upset and still do what needs to be done, because I've done it my whole life. I vote in the primaries, I've voted third party in local races when its appropriate, and even once nationally for Gary Johnson(most progressive candidate at the time, and supported "The Fair Tax" which was a backdoor UBI) in 2012 after Obama spent his first term rolling over for Republicans, and Leiberman fucked us over on healthcare.
And I don't believe my comments cause disinterest in voting that wasn't already there, but I gotta tell you the blueberries that show up acting like assholes makes me not want to even bother anymore, and just focus on my own local neighborhood and let the rest of the country fall even further into the shit. You've personally contributed that disinterest for me. I wonder how much more disinterest you've inspired by choosing to ignore the very real problems in the DNC.
Nope, you sound like a tankie, no shock there. I said what I said about my surprise.
I understand your feelings, but I'm no DNC rep. I AM trying to change them though.
I'm not ignoring their problems, but I'm not going to sit still and act like treating them the same as the GOP is helpful. They aren't a hardline cult the way the GOP is, and this is a consequence of that.
I think we're in violent agreement politics wise. I think we disagree on how to change that though.
And you sound like livestock; I believe we're done here. Good luck out there, we all need it.
Moo
You literally asked a question then answered it for them. Thats the definition of putting words in their mouth.
You're right, I asked a rhetorical question to make a point.
So why the denial then?
Because most people know what a rhetorical question is?
Maybe you should look it up then. Because, if you answer it for them, it's not really rhetorical, is it?
I think you missed the part where I framed it as if I was having a conversation with the person? You're clearly angry about my choice of literary devices. Sorry to upset you.
Have a nice day.
No, that part was very apparent. You having a make believe conversation where you spoke for the other person is the source of our entire conversation. It's not a literary device, though, is the problem.
Also, as long as we're talking about literary devices immediately trying to frame anyone who disagrees with you as "angry" is a classic. Not a device from any respectable literature though of course.
](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Literary_device)
You dropped these
I hope one day you'll be to actually comprehend that.
Me too, thanks!