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Lost partition table, can i trust the HDD again? (discuss.tchncs.de)

submitted 2 weeks ago by MoLoPoLY@discuss.tchncs.de to c/linuxquestions@lemmy.zip

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Probably due to a power outage, I suddenly lost access to a connected USB HDD yesterday. According to parted, I get the message “unknown partition table,” and gdisk says the GPT is corrupted. Using testdisk, I was able to copy the files to another drive and restore the partition table and mount the HDD.

Is it possible that the partition table was damaged by the power outage, or does this point to a different problem? Can I safely store data on such an HDD again, or should I replace it?

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[–] muhyb@programming.dev 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If the drive's firmware is faulty, SMART data will be faulty too. But can you say the percentage is somewhat high from what you dealt with, a little statistics? What I saw is my personal experience and it's definitely wouldn't be accurate as yours. I only saw a drive died out of nowhere a handful of times which is not high if I make it into a percentage.Though if the drive itself is faulty, it won't take long for it to die too.

The best I saw is a WD Caviar Black 500 GB drive from 2011 we use, still kicking. Took a backup because of its age a couple years ago but haven't died yet. The worst I saw was my friend's NVMe SSD that died in 3 months after he installed. Probably its firmware was also faulty because SMART didn't help that time.

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's nothing to do with faulty firmware, it's that smart will only see 1 in 3 issues and as such is simply not good enough to use as actual diagnostics.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see. So, you're saying that occasionally checking smartctl (or having smartd as a daemon continuously), running badblocks time to time and maybe checking iostat not really enough? I mean, Linux is by far the most used OS on servers and datacenters, if these are not enough someone would write a proper tool I guess, don't you think?

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Not at all. It takes a huge amount of work to do so, and the benefit of using raid etc is redundancy so they can afford for things to fail. Smart mon tools is a great example, the software is great but it needs it's database to support that drives functions to work well and they can't and don't support everything.

[–] muhyb@programming.dev 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I see, they're solving the issue other way around then by using raid. Didn't know smartmontools work with a database, so it works kind of like an antivirus in a way. Interesting.

By the way, again it's just my experience but I want to ask this. Have you noticed faulty disks are more common in NVMe SSDs than HDDs or I happen to noticed that because it's common in cheaper options and more expensive ones are actually worth the price?

[–] KiwiTB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

60 40 hard disks. Tho many SSDs just die Vs Hard disks which often die a slow death.