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Well, we don't live in the magical realm of wonderful smelling farts and platonic forms. There's no true capitalist countries and no true communist countries. Reasonable people know how to read from context. When we talk about communist and capitalist countries, you know damn well what we're talking about.
There are no communist states anywhere, because Marx defined communism as a classless stateless society.
It would be wrong to pretend that there are currently any large scale "communist" societies in the world, the closest would probably be smaller communities like the Zapatistas or Rojava. Soviet style "communism" has always been a bastardization of all actual communist ideas and pretending, that that is the best version of communism that we could get is utterly delusional.
Because at the end of the day, Soviet Russia just replaced the bugoirsie with party officials and it was just red fascism.
It's not about it being the "best" version. It is the version that exists in real life.
Trying to have a battle over which fictional utopia is better is pointless.
There are no true societies.
That doesn't mean descriptions are not useful. There's no such thing as a capitalist society, yet communism's entire foundation is built on critiquing it.
Explain what Elon Musk(and all the other billionaires are for that matter) is if there is no such thing as capitalistic society.
You missed the point entirely. You can't with one side of your tongue say there are no true communist societies while saying there are true capitalist countries with the other. Every country exists through a combination of both free market and government intervention in the economy. Yet, for some reason, only the platonic ideal true communism counts as communism, but the applied version counts as capitalism. I'm a leftist myself, I just think the double standard is fucking idiotic.
Please elaborate?? If you make claims, that stray far from the understanding of these terms by most people, it would be really useful to know, why you see it that way.
Descriptions are only useful when they tell you anything useful about the things, they are describing. The Soviet Union was neither communist nor socialist, because the workers didn't control the means of production. The state did. This is fundamental to both of these systems. Sometimes, false labels can also be harmful, because they give the other person a false idea of what you are talking about. For example, it would be wrong and also really bad, if you were to describe the Nazis as socialists, just because they were called the "national socialists".