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No, it's just before liberals started admitting that Israel was blatantly murdering civilians en masse. This had a lot more to do with a Republican being in charge than the actual blatant mass murder of civilians, which had been going on since October 2023.
Because you like Harris and don't want to accept that someone can have a valid reason to hate her guts.
It's not a matter of liberals admitting it, it's that Isreal ramped up and ran out of targets with any military association but kept bombing. And they did this because trump encouraged them to do so. Harris would have kept arming them but would have continued to push the message that Isreal should respect human rights while defending itself. It matters and it's different. All the while that Hammas kept firing rockets into Isreal, which it was doing daily before the election, Isreal had cover to bomb things even remotely like a military resource. There were so many obvious lies being pushed by both sides that even the extent of Isreal's atrocities was questionable back then. And by your own assertion above, liberals and democrats have now recognized that Hamas is essentially disarmed now and Isreal's continued attacks on civilians are unacceptable. The dnc is shifting now, but there is a powerful isreali lobby and some die hards in the party. Now is the time to push and people are doing that. But once we are in the election, we need to cool off and help democrats win as much as possible. Otherwise any shift is wasted and we have more years of the US blindly encouraging and paying for Isreal to do what it wants with absolutely no restrictions.
See, you're proving my point. That's exactly what was happening under Biden. The UN was warning of a famine as early as mid-2024. Biden himself said Rafah was a humanitarian red line and proceeded to do nothing when Israel took it. If your point is that Israel was engaging in legitimate self-defense until November, then kindly fuck off.
No it fucking wasn't. People were yelling as loud as they could that Israel's conduct was genocidal as early as October 9th 2023.
Yes, Biden was weak. But he was at least doing some push back, unlike trump. Maybe ineffective, but I don't think so - the violence certainly ramped up under trump's encouragement.
Yes, people were yelling about Isreal's response to the Oct attacks - before it even started, which it rather telling. And there were videos showing Isreali bombing of hospitals that were then clearly shown to be from misfired Hamas rockets. The entire Oct attacks could never have militarily achieved any success especially as they targeted civilians, so it was clear from the start that it was all about purposefully triggering a response and then getting it on video to gain sympathy. They literally did the Oct attacks to get tic toc views of their children getting killed.
As horrific as that is, of course it doesn't excuse Israel's actions - I'm not defending them. But it does explain a lot of the distrust of the reports of what Isreal was doing - ie if the point was to generate sympathetic media, then it seems likely that Hamas would fabricate it and spin it, and of course they did. Just as Isreal spun their bombing as defence against Hamas resources. When Hamas was firing rockets at Isreal daily, it was easy cover for Isreal to do what they wanted because people see that if someone is shooting at you, you need to shoot back. Of course it also works the other way, and that's why wars are so horrible.
Again, I am not defending Isreal; they have had horrific policy for decades and their disregard for civilian safety is unacceptable and their expansionist actions and attacks on infrastructure should not be tolerated.
But we can't stop them at all under trump or maga. Trump is not just letting red lines be crossed, he is not just allowing Isreal to have US weapons - he is actively supporting the aggression with the U.S. military. The 'weak' democrats are clearly better than this. I don't know exactly what Harris would have done if she had been president; I'm sure not enough, but I do believe all the 'red line' talk would have lead to more and more push back on the atrocities. We'll never know because since she wasn't as strongly against Isreal as we might like, too many eligible voters stayed home and we got Trump and the worst ever carnage in Gaza, and now Lebanon. We can't make that mistake again.