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[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It is the usa and israel. Stop whitewashing the evil united snakes empire.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

As an Iranian I want to be very clear that Iran's position is that the USA is the problem. Not Trump and definitely not Netanyahu.

Americans debate whether Israel is "wagging the dog", as though America is the dog being controlled by its tail (Israel). Iranians think of the relationship as: hostile owner (America) of a rabid attack dog that it can barely control (Israel). But it's the owner who's responsible, not the dog.

I know that some Iranians that participate in English-speaking media play along with the American narrative that Israel is controlling the United States. That's manipulative propaganda on their part. It's designed to confuse Americans and weaken the USA, while playing along with or at least not contradicting the narratives that Americans tell themselves. It's for US consumption, not what they believe.

Internally in Iran these ideas have no traction. They see Israel as an imperialist tool to destabilize the Middle East, which is the geopolitically most important region on the planet and must not be allowed self-determination lest the empire be doomed. It's a vestige of the British Empire, inherited by the USA.

Make of this what you will.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

But it is true to an extent that Israel exerts influence in US politics. AIPAC funds politicians' campaigns.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Aipsac is funded by the american zionists.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 weeks ago

I read up a bit about AIPAC, and yes, it's true that as far as we can tell, at least since 1954, there's no direct funding by Israel (couldn't find a reliable source concerning the claim of clandestine direct funding of AZC by Israel, so it might never have been the case). But there's a lot of collaboration between Israel and AIPAC. So, in a way, Israel does influences the US, but it's entirely thanks to US citizens happy to help them. It's not clear to me why they are happy to.