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[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

It would be pretty unscientific and irrational to claim that AI won't exceed human intelligence.

Now, the current companies and their LLMs are not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about AI systems in general, not the LLMs of today. But from first principles, it seems guaranteed that we will be able to create superhuman artificial intelligences.

But there's nothing magical about the human brain. In fact, it's processes are molasses slow compared to silicon circuits. And even if we can't reproduce it now, the facts remain. The brain is a physical thing. It's made of atoms. Its processes can be duplicated or simulated. And the materials we can make artificial minds with are not limited by the materials biology has to work with. Our thought engines also aren't limited by the need to be capable of physical growth and reproduction. And even if the only way to produce a true intelligence was through biology, you could make a superhuman intelligence by growing artificial biological brains larger than human ones.

Intelligence isn't magical. Unless you believe in an immaterial soul, there's nothing special about biology. I

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 15 hours ago

When looking at time scales, artificial intelligence comparable to even an average human is likely to be centuries away due to the complexity involved. Silicon solutions are not scalable for making the number of connections and managing them over time. Taking a shortcut using biology is going to require years or decades of training as we incrementally improve the training process. None of that is going to be completed within our lifetimes, so being dismissive of it is completely reasonable.

It is as impossible as cloning fully grown adults with all their memories, like sure we can do it eventually once tech reaches that point but at this point in time me calling it impossible won't be disproven before I am worm food.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Ironically there is more in common with this meme and a preacher warning nonbelievers of some apocalypse.

Sure, maybe Chinese Jesus is real and Lord. But if you're looking to complain about irrationality, you're missing the obvious target

[–] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Like, is there anything wrong with what I said? We're not talking about gods and angels here. We're talking about real material reality. You focused my opening statement and ignored the heart of my argument.

There's nothing in the laws of physics that prevents us from building machines for capable and intelligent than humans. In fact, we have a lot of good reasons to believe that human minds are not the peak of what thought engines this universe allows.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Is there anything wrong with Roko's Basilisk?

If you're looking for irrationality, you'll find an endless supply on the forums of a cult leader that deemed himself a "Rationalist". It's full of people working them into a tizzy on things that might not technically be impossible.

[–] Schadrach@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Except it's almost certainly technically possible. Like I can guarantee you that human level intelligence is possible in a volume of less than 2L of hardware and running on just a few W of power. The idea that human level intelligence cannot be exceeded without needing to match those space, power, or materials restrictions is kind of absurd.

[–] XLE@piefed.social 1 points 12 hours ago

I asked specifically if there's anything wrong with Roko's Basilisk. Since you decided to reply, I would love to hear your response.

It would also be great if you provided a timeline, because the person who posted this FUD is insinuating that this is something that's coming fast.