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[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 22 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Obamacare was the implementation of a 1989 Heritage Foundation plan to implement an individual mandated health care system.

Also by no available metric did Obamacare "improve things". Healthcare costs rose significantly above the pre-ACA trend, bankruptcy increased, and health outcomes plummeted across nearly all metrics.

[–] zarkanian@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Didn't the ACA get rid of insurers denying coverage based on "pre-existing conditions"?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 week ago

Yes but that was also a part of Romneycare, ie the heritage version implemented in MA under Romney being Governor

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 2 points 1 week ago

Sure, but you're assuming that "coverage" leads to better outcomes. I remember diabetes being one of the big ones at the time and is avery maneagble disease.

So, what was the hospitalization rate before and after? Did it decrease as was promised? Is diabetes unique or does this trend hold for the majority of those "pre-existing conditions"?

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Also by no available metric did Obamacare "improve things"

Wrong. The number of insured people went up. The uninsured rate dropped to a historic low of 7.7% by 2023. That is a tangible improvement in the lives of millions of Americans.

[–] SinAdjetivos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You are assuming that having insurance is correlated to physical or financial health and is therefore an improvement.

Rationally that makes sense, that's what it's supposed to do. Empirically the data shows an overall negative correlation between private healthcare rates and general healthcare outcomes.

It's true that the uninsured rate went from 17% pre-ACA(2010 when it was signed) to 10%(2016 2 years after it was implemented at an uninsured local minima) which is ~18 million people. However in that same timespan average annual health expenditures, for the entire US population, doubled from $1600 per person per year to $3200. Pre-ACA trend would've resulted in ~$2200.

That's a difference of ~4.87 trillion dollars stolen by "healthcare" corporations from individuals over the last 14 years.