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[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 1 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

China doesn't claim to be communist, "yet".

China ... [is] socialist

No it isn't, Socialism "with Chinese Characteristics" is doing some extremely heavy lifting.

It's a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn't negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.

Without worker control, that's not socialism.

Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn't authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I'm aware).

Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn't make something socialist.

China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they're just bad in their own unique ways.

All the cool comrades know that "socialism" in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn't a great model.

Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they're both capitalist states. I'm not a "China Bad" believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.

The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.

[–] SnapdragonBeehive@lemmy.world 1 points 10 hours ago

Honestly, I agree.