this post was submitted on 15 May 2026
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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.
AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)
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I hope that you've gotten to see a compassionate side of our community which is usually obscured by our existential requirement to critique rationalism. I would like to see an end to abuse and cults, and I worry that I'm not working enough towards that goal. Without asking you to animate any particular grievance, what more would you see us do? In particular, what inaction of ours frustrates you?
yes thank you <3
I think that in general there just needs to be more institutional attention on the situation that exists and every time I've talked to a journo there's been a point at 'this needs more national importance' and sadly sexual violence by community group members doesn't do it (and TIME / Bloomberg has already covered a lot of it)
I think an unfortunate truth is that there's only so much critique can do, ie I could write another 5 blogs on what happened to me and it's not really going to change anything. Vibecamp leadership has come down with a firm stance of not taking reports of sexual violence at face value and people can decide whether to attend based on that statement. The only thing that would make them really change is a civil lawsuit and any woman who does would face immense blowback (a friend of mine had a very publicized case in another group of people which she won, but she was insanely blacklisted in her industry).
When it comes to Rationalism in general, there is just too much money involved and it's the same problem of women coming forward about things that happen at Lighthaven wrt blowback. Fucked up things happening are also just normalized for them, from Brent Dill to Michael Vassar to Zizians, and Lighthaven becoming a creator house via https://www.plzdontkillus.com/ is happening because they realize they need better PR.
So I guess all of this is to say I don't think there's a lot SneerClub can do besides being data points for people curious about Rationalism that research it, reading between the lines of what journalists have told me they need a group of women to come forward and put their names behind their accusations or there has to be some bombshell money trail / scandal beyond what TIME / Bloomberg have reported on.
Staying on the right side of mentioning names I have personal grievances with: People in that ecosystem are talented at getting favourable media coverage and winning the narrative, there's not a lot to be done in the face of that other than try to give people a heads up on what they're walking into. Some will listen, some won't.
I fear that it will be like the lawsuits against churches in Canada or the Society for Creative Anachronism in the USA, where after decades of covering up for child abuse some survivors got some justice. It would have been better for everyone if they had just stopped and changed their policies the first time someone got hurt.
Content creator houses are new to me. Even Ozy Brennan suggested that there would be less situations like Leverage Research and the Zizians if rationalists stopped living in group homes and made sure to have social connections outside the movement.
I am glad you have some help and support in Vancouver, please let us know if there is anything else you would like us to do.
ty <3
i agree, and I think the 'AI is going to kill us so yolo' attitude from influential people is mainly why problems are avoided or hidden