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Me trying to figure out if OP means true left or Tankie bullshit before commenting:
I see a lot of people on Lemmy recently claiming to be left but also trying to tell me how democracies are bad. -_-
I see a lot of "leftists" in Lemmy trying to tell me how capitalism is totally a democracy despite systematically ignoring the wishes of the vast majority and only de facto governing for the ruling class
Democracies exists?
The more I think about democracies the more I realise they're flawed by design. Asking people for vote as now synonymous with essentially marketing. Most people are unable to understand when they're being marketed to.
A benevolent dictator would be sooo much better, but then even by miracle you get a benevelont one, chances of the next one being benevelont are shit.
So I don't know what the solution is. But we sticked to the flawed solution for now.
This is the catch that the greek philosophers warned about. Democracies are vulnerable to manipulation, demagoguery, and shortsightedness. A functional democracy requires maintaining a high level of societal quality, education, ethics, stability, and aggressively restricting consolidation of wealth and power. The US failed to do any of these things, and has descended into neofeudalism, where the govern_ed_ no longer have any influence over their govern_ment_.
I think it will be a lot better if we could punish liars. If the population had access to trustworthy information and an accessible way to vote, we could have a true democracy.
Athenian democracies solve a lot of our current issues. It's a bit like jury duty. You put your own name down and can be picked for roles in government.
France did that after the yellow vest protests. They randomly picked 100 citizens to lead a citizens Senate to propose solutions, and Macron promised to implement their suggestions (he lied. Only partial implementation happened)
One of the emergent properties to picking 100 random citizens is you get close to a random sample of society. Rich and poor, left and right all with different perspectives and life experiences. They all have to argue their perspective and back it up with evidence for it to function properly.
They also can't be bought out the same way as entrenched parties. The candidates are random. Nobody knows until the results are announced.
It also results in a much stronger sense of civic duty for the average citizen when you participate in the civic process regularly like this.
This video does a far better job than I can making the case for them
Democracies need a system to set long term goals and kick out any politicians violating the goals.
Anarchists argue against democracy for their own separate reasons. I am only beginning to grasp the nuance, but there is a distinction.
I suggest engaging an anarchist/somebody versed on the topic to learn more, or read up here on the fediverse ~~or shudders on Reddit.~~ EDIT: Actually, don't go there.
https://cdn.crimethinc.com/assets/books/from-democracy-to-freedom/from-democracy-to-freedom_screen_single_page_view.pdf