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[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 11 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (4 children)

There's no food that makes you burn calories instead of absorbing them. So all food is for gaining weight, exercise is for losing weight (or starving yourself).

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 10 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

Most vegetables are far less calorie dense than virtually all other foods. In addition, plants and fungi are high fiber foods. Fiber is well known to promote satiety, being a natural way to promote our own body's expression of glp-1 hormones.

One of the biggest challenges in weight loss is that most people's appetites are survival machinery evolved to avoid starvation at all costs in environments that may potentially be lacking in food - but we now live in an industrial environment that not only has removed all the ways we would normally get exercise naturally through physical labor; but has surrounded us at every angle by extremely calorie dense junk food that's specifically formulated to be addictive and hijack that survival machinery.

Exercise is important but you can't out-exercise a bad diet, and starvation (which is exactly what a calorie deficit is) does not work either. Any method that works has to be able to deal with our toxic food environment. That's why the glp-1 drugs are popular even though they tend to plateau. And that's why vegans tend to average the lowest body weight of any dietary group.

[–] Shellofbiomatter@lemmus.org 1 points 26 minutes ago* (last edited 11 minutes ago) (1 children)

Can you elaborate on the calorie deficit not working part? Because energy deficit is pretty much the only way to lose weight as the body will make up that deficit by using it's own fat stores.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 3 minutes ago

It often doesn't work in the sense that people try to achieve a calorie deficit by eating less, which causes their appetite to increase significantly. Many people are unable to resist overeating in our industrialized societies that constantly bombard us with addictive foods. So yes, a calorie deficit is necessary, but it's also necessary to have a way to deal with appetite or else maintaining a calorie deficit becomes unsustainable.

That's why plant-centric diets are a great choice - you can eat as much as you want to satiety, and still be able to lose weight.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 3 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (2 children)

Ah btw, why do they group fruits and veggies together? Fruits are also relatively calories dense.

And also corn, wtf. Corn is potato and beans category.

While i agree with your point (exercise or not, you'd need to change your meal plan to lose weight that keeps), that graphic has issues.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah I do agree about the fruits, that is a little strange. Fruit would probably sit somewhere between veggies and beans. Maybe they just average it?

I think it's just the issue of trying to simplify things. You can endlessly get into the details and end up with a monstrously complicated and useless infographic that is technically accurate. For example, even in the category of vegetables alone - carrots are technically more like potatoes, but colloquially still seen as a vegetable. And corn, despite being a grain is nutritionally more on the starchy side making that also more like potatoes.

But if the graphic reflected all that, the basic idea would get lost.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)
[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 1 hour ago

In between meat and potatoes, beans, and rice.

[–] FishFace@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago

It depends wildly on the fruit and vegetable. For example, cabbage is about 0.25 calories per gram but carrot is 0.36, and strawberries are 0.32. An apple is 0.5. (All numbers from Wolfram Alpha).

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

So you'd need 4 stomachs full of vegies per day?

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 hours ago

Lulz. I would not recommend a diet made of purely vegetables for a prolonged period of time.

[–] jivandabeast@lemmy.browntown.dev 2 points 4 hours ago (1 children)
[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 hours ago

I always thought so because a very reliable man in the pub told me it, but it turns out not to be the case.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative-calorie_food

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 1 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

There are about 150 kcal in a litre of lettuce smoothie

[–] nexguy@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

How many calories would it take to digest a litre of lettuce smoothie?

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

A lettuce smoothie is not the same thing as eating lettuce. By turning it into a smoothie, you increase the calorie density and make it much easier to consume a higher quantity faster. That is likely enough to turn it into a higher calorie food.

[–] zeroConnection@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago) (2 children)

Not really, the calorie density is exactly the same per kilo. It's just easier and quicker to drink a smoothie than to chew through a kilo of lettuce.

[–] AnimalsDream@slrpnk.net 1 points 30 minutes ago

Take a cardboard box and grind it into powder, and tell me which one takes up less space. Of course anything blended is going to be more calorie dense.

[–] Danquebec@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago

I'm guessing it must be easier for the intestines to digest it if it's blent into tiny pieces too.

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 7 hours ago (3 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip 1 points 3 hours ago

Calories negative.

[–] theoretiker@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In order to avoid having to list exceptions to the above posts statement, you are now required to sprinkle a bit of sugar on every icecube you consume.

I do that every day, my friend, with a special drink I made called a Baja Blast on Ice.

That's one part Baja Blast.
One one-fifteenth part ice.
One one-one-hundredth part brown sugar.
And one one-fiftieth part lime slice.

[–] Potatar@lemmy.world 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

Ice(frozen water, right?) is food? In which culture?

[–] mirshafie@europe.pub 1 points 39 minutes ago* (last edited 36 minutes ago)

No, obviously I'm talking about meth.

(Assuming this joke won't land: technically methamphetamine has calories.)