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If they aren't signing union cards, they aren't revolting.
I don't like this take, because labor unionization should be seen as a completely normal activity for workers and not a form of revolution.
Revolution should be normal.
This probably seems like it makes sense when you're a teenager, but most people with children want a stable society and a reliable income.
I'm in my 40s and have come to realize that the unions that are worth a damn are the ones that exercise the strike on a regular basis. Striking is a revolutionary act and it should be normalized as it is in other countries.
An action (any action) cannot be normal and revolutionary. These are antitheses.
Wouldn't be Lemmy without theoretical perfect looking down on potential good.
I am... actually not clear on whether you are referring to my comment, or the comment I was responding to.
If you were referring to me, I want to say that I'm not looking down on the potential good, I am criticizing the framing of unionizing as revolutionary. I think talking about it this way is a mistake, the kind that is made by people who want politics to be exciting, who find discussions of good policy to be boring. This kind of framing supports the narrative of the owner class who try to imply that striking workers are unreasonable violent malcontents.
Good policy should be boring. Unionization should be as mundane as arranging direct deposit for your paycheck when you start a job. It should be just another form that you fill out for HR. It should be normal. Employers should expect that their employees will participate in collective bargaining, and should be treated as unreasonable nutjobs if they speak (or take action) against it.
He’s not saying that you shouldn’t unionize
He’s just saying that while it’s good, it’s not really a revolution so ideally you shouldn’t stop there
Nobody said stop there?
They're revolting either way, it's just a question of definition.
Damn right.