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Many people on lemmy.ml deeply respect and admire authoritarian governments and organizations.

Iran, China, North Korea, Soviet Union...

The West has many flaws. But our flaws are nothing compared to these guys.

Iran hangs homosexuals. Iran shot 30,000 people in less than than 2 weeks. The Soviet Union had to build a fucking Iron wall to prevent people from escaping. The Soviets lied about the Chernobyl nuclear explosion. China censors the internet. China wants to eliminate Islam. North Korea is a totalitarian hellscape. Watching anime is a crime.

Why is lemmy.ml so fascinated with authoritarians?

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[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Because that's Marcist-lenisim?

Stalin named it, and he's the one that set the definition of what that means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism

They don't call it "Stalinism" because that's way harder to defend.

The ones you see online don't even understand it, it literally requires supporting the left most party, but I've never seen a .ml account actually pushing for change thru the two party system, despite that literally being the first step:

Marxism–Leninism holds that a two-stage communist revolution is needed to replace capitalism. A vanguard party, organized through democratic centralism, would seize power on behalf of the proletariat and establish a one-party communist state. The state would control the means of production, suppress opposition, counter-revolution, and the bourgeoisie, and promote Soviet collectivism, to pave the way for an eventual communist society that would be classless and stateless.[12]

Most people online that say they're "ML" don't understand anything about it. They "learned" all they know from unsourced shitposts.

Which is crazy, because this is the closest actual ML has ever come, after trump the Dems are most likely to gain so many seats, it'll effectively be a one party government starting 2029.

If we get a progressive Dem that will name a progressive DNC chair after becoming president, we're fucking there. A one party government that's genuinely for the proletariat.

Any that claims to actually be ML and isn't pushing for the DNC as hard as possible right now is lying about their self professed label, or never understood what it meant

[–] mitram@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Disclaimer I'm not from the states.

Believing the Democratic Party will in anyway abolish or even threaten capitalism is laughable. Even the most "left" (I don't like the left/right axis) politicians in America are at most social-democrats and are more likely to actually enact social liberal policies. The democrats will never pose an actual threat to capitalism.

The republicans are much more enamored with the status quo, but the democrats won't resolve the structural contradictions the USA (and the west) faces.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Believing the Democratic Party will in anyway abolish or even threaten capitalism is laughable

I'm not talking about "the party" I'm talking about the DNC...

And the DNC is basically a dictatorship run under the chair, for four years they're accountable to no one and for a long string of chairs that's worked out horribly.

When a Dem becomes president, they name a DNC chair. Meaning the last one was obvious a neoliberal appointed by Biden and thats why they didn't let us have a primary.

Right now the DNC chair is legitimately nonbiased. They won't say shit till after the primary, and support everyone equally that goes to a general.

That means, ML should be pushing really really hard for a progressive Dem in the presidential primary, one who they believe will appoint someone explicitly progressive as chair.

Like, if you think the literal first step in ML invalidated the whole thing...

I'm just explaining what their plan is, go to .ml and tell them that you believe their entire plan is fundamentally flawed and if they agree, ask them why they still say they're ML.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

this is hilarious and sad to read at the same time

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It definitely caused a predictable reaction from .ml accounts

Cognitive dissonance is pretty hard to deal with when people actually know what your ethos says.

Give em time tho, some day they'll be just as good at it as modern Christians or maga.

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Most people are fed up with your binary libshit politics, nobody cares about your manufactured culture war of lgbt vs christians. Keep living in your comfort zone which your govt is providing you by bombing schools in middle east.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's weird how many 1 month old accounts have such serious issues with me...

nobody cares about your manufactured culture war of lgbt vs christians.

I'm wondering where that came from tho, that's a new one

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I joined lemmy in 2023, one account was gone because it was on lemm.ee instance, another account I made on .zip was banned by admin because he didnt like some of my comments

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

nobody cares about your manufactured culture war of lgbt vs christians.

I’m wondering where that came from tho, that’s a new one

Can I get an answer?

[–] Tolc@lemmy.world -2 points 2 weeks ago

What is your question? you are the type who believes fascism can be voted away and so support the establishment parties who manufacture culture wars.