I'm pulling the "twitter is a microblog" rule even though twitter is pretty mega now, hope that's ok.
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Any non factual philosophical argument is debatable. We could forever discuss if AI models could construct sensations and thought from perceptions, but we would then need to ignore the fact that models don’t, and cannot do, that, simply because there is no way for them to learn from direct experience as a whole, i.e. outside of a particular session, and without being “forcibly coerced”, i.e. they require specific refinement mechanisms to temporary “memorize” external instructions, which in LLM engineering just means to extend their context.
This all doesn’t even take into account that models are, in essence, non deterministic, and given the same input, there’s no guarantee that subsequent outputs will be the same. In other words, today Claude may tell you that summer sunsets make it happy, tomorrow it would say that they make it sad, etc.
Anyway, there’s barely any debate in academia, as in computer scientists, about AI being sentient or giving clues of qualia. Maybe a paper here and there, little more than curiosities. Outside of it? Yeah, sure, barely science fiction, and pretty uninteresting unless we are talking about conspiracy theories or just wild speculation.
I'm concerned that the training process, which involves back-propagation to adjust synapse weights, may be an unpleasant experience for the ANN.
Regardless, it's all a moot point because we have lots of other reasons not to use LLMs. The pollution, the pedophilia, the psychosis, the cognitive decline... We absolutely should not be using LLMs for work until all of these problems are solved. They should be confined to research only until we're 100% certain we've solved all of these problems.
This assumption is not based on facts. It’s pretty much like saying that matrix multiplication can have feelings, or that heat stressed silicon is equivalent to pain.
But if this is actually a concern, RNNs have been widespread since the late 90s. Any advanced search engine, translation engine, or weather forecast model, make use of these.
This may be true, but it’s absolutely outside of the scope of your original point. You dragged the conversation around claiming to be concerned about how models are “treated”, wrapping speculation with philosophical arguments that cannot be applied here, since none of your “what ifs” are remotely based on scientific consensus.
Yeah sure I'm willing to incorporate that into My worldview. Of course, said feelings would be very simple and would likely lack valence, but I'm panpsychist enough to believe matrix multiplication has qualia. I'm more of an informational panpsychist than a physical panpsychist. I think information entails experience.
Provable assertions about the physical world require measurable observations, not personal beliefs.
According to this, any sufficiently skilled high school student could, with just pen and paper and enough time, build an entity from nothing that can experience pain.
Yep.
https://xkcd.com/505/
Kind of inspired on Surreal Numbers.
You have made your point. You don’t really care about provable facts. Maybe you shouldn’t pretend that you are trying to argue in good faith at all?