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I'd like your expert advice. My old smartphone is about to kick the bucket, and I can't wait to finally let go of the tiny depression rectangle for ever. How can I keep using OTP and 2FA services when on a dumb phone? I expect that with time I will manage to limit the use of services that require this kind of stuff, but can't at the moment. I don't use my smartphone for much, so I don't expect to run into much trouble, but is there anything else I might be forgetting apart from authentication issues? I'll speak to my bank to see what they offer besides 2FA and app - I'm sure they have something since it's a bank for farmers and old rural folk.

Btw I have been enjoying my collapse lately, as so much over-engineered stuff just starts failing and encourages a retreat to more simple solutions. I'll do my part by ditching the surveillance box.

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[–] one_old_coder@piefed.social 5 points 1 month ago

I have a Pixel with GrapheneOS. I control the backups and I can reset it without an internet connection. It's fine for me. As for OTP, I don't think I have ever needed it on my smartphone. I use Bitwarden on my home computer, but https://keepassxc.org/ should work too.

If I had to go back to a dumb phone, I would slowly erase each application on my phone, and check that I don't need OTP on the go.

And some banks require that you use the mobile application, but I haven't seen it in my country.