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Gordon Ramsay one of the first celebrity chefs to bring US-style 20 % service charge
(www.independent.co.uk)
this post was submitted on 28 Apr 2026
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As long as it is visible before you order and comes explicitly in the final bill...it is just the tabled price...they're just forcing you to take extra steps...
On the other hand...I dont want anyone bugging me to pay them extra on top of the bill, I'm not their boss.
Nah fuck that, just increase prices by 20%, this is deliberately misleading pricing and shouldn't be allowed to spread.
Infact he should get aasaice fine just to send a message!
yeah its like if they want put a price in parenthesis for each item to show what it will really cost. Heck show the cost of ingredients and then the cost for the service to prepare it and then the cost for service to take your order and stuff and then how much is the restaurants profit if they want full transparency.
Doing this is different to increasing the price.
Firstly, from a PR point of view, it tells people that the extra money is going to the staff and not the restaurant.
More importantly, in the UK, we are legally able to object to a service charge placed on the bill and they have to remove it.
No it's not it's litterally increasing the price
They're always free to publish their books if they care about transparency.
Great so assholes can get a 20% discount.
Menu prices should add up to what you are expected to pay, you don't add taxes, you shouldn't add service, those are expected functions of a restaurant, and the moment you give buisnesses an inch, they'll keep pushing until the price you pay at the end is tangential to what they list in the menu.
Your £20 main becomes £20
+20% tax
+20% service fee
+5% tip
+10% London rent fee
+5% booking fee (brought to you by Ticketmaster)
+7.2% Mercury in retrograde insurance
Which is only slightly worse than a US bill
If you want to charge me £24 just update the fucking menu!
I do agree with you in that it’s much better for the price to be the price and for tips to be entirely up to the customer.
That’s how it is in most UK restaurants in my experience but tips being added on already is creeping in. It used to be for large groups, then smaller groups and now a few places do it for everyone. Very annoying.
You’d be being an asshole if you were just doing it on principle but I have received bad service and asked for the tip to be removed. I didn’t feel like I was being a dick.