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[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (4 children)

Wait.... 78 Billion trees. As in with a 'b' billion? In all seriousness, how?

[–] Tottakai@europe.pub 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

In Estonia we plant about 20-40 millions of trees every year.

RMK ( State Forest Management Center) alone plants about 20-25 million trees every year.

And we are nation with 1,3 million people. So for China that number over the years isn’t big at all.

I always laugh when in the western news there is some organization, what makes big words that they planted 2 million trees and if that is something of a big achivments what should be boasted around the news.

I should check out Estonia

[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 19 points 5 days ago (2 children)

It's since 1980, they've had almost half a century to do it.

[–] finallymadeanaccount@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That's still 1,695,652,173 trees per year (78,000,000,000/46 years).

"In all seriousness, how?"

[–] angband@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

The us plants about 2.3 trillion corn plants per year. 25,000 per acre, 95,000,000 acres. Considering they plant 68,000,000 trees per year just for paper, in the US, the numbers aren't shocking. Worldwide tree nurseries probably dwarf that 1.6 billion, maybe.

[–] village604@adultswim.fan 8 points 5 days ago

68 million is a pretty far cry from 1,695 million.

But the US plants around 1.3 billion a year, so China's number isn't shocking

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

That's still over a billion trees a year. Actually that's over 1,500,000,000 trees a year. Again...HOW?

And this begs a side question. Out of those 78 Billion trees, how many are alive now?

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Just a matter of scale. Every seventh person lives in China.

Or to recontextualize: The article talks about a time span of around 45 years. That's around 1.7 billion trees. Remember, that's an english (short) billion, 1700 million. (In other languages a billion is a million millions, and not just a thousand millions.)

If a worker can plant 20 trees a day and works 200 days a year, that means around half a million people are more than enough to do it. In a country with around 1400 million people, that's 0.035% of the population, or roughly one in 3000 people.

Suddenly, it's not all that crazy anymore.

[–] Worstdriver@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Are we talking 10 to the 9th power or the 12th?

I also did some reading up on this. I live in British Columbia and reforestation is a big deal. Apparently a tree planter can plant 2,000 seedlings a day. More if the terrain is good and they're experienced. So yeah, I can see it now.

Though I still wonder about the survival rate of the plantings, but How question is indeed answered.

[–] squaresinger@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago

Popular Mechanics is US-based, so they use short billions: 1bio = 1 000 000 000.

You are right, long billions (1bio = 1 000 000 000 000) would be a lot more. Though even that would still be possible, but then ~35% of the chinese population would have to be employed in planting trees.

[–] BananaTrifleViolin@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, I was shocked too. But in 1949 apparently 8.6% of the country was forested; in 2022 it was 24%.

In 2005 they launched the "Greening China" initiative to plant 13 Trillion (yes Trillion with a T) trees in 10 years. They didn't succeed but in 2021 the People's Daily claimed 78.1bn trees planted in 40 years Link.

However - China is known for inflating statistics to suit the communist party's own ends, and the People's Daily is part of the country's propaganda system. It's probably far less than 78bn, and that figure doesn't count replants and commerically logged trees. But it seems that whatever the figure there really has been a concerted long term reforestation effort in China.

[–] shadowtofu@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 4 days ago

There are around 3 trillion trees on earth, so planting another 13 trillion is quite ambitious