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UK moves to ban smoking for everyone born after 2008 (www.dw.com)

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Technically, the new law will raise the legal age requirement in the UK for buying cigarettes, cigars or tobacco, which is currently 18, by one year in every subsequent year, starting on January 1, 2027
This will effectively mean that people born on or after January 1, 2009 will never be eligible to buy them
Retailers will face financial penalties for selling the products to those not entitled to them
The government will also be empowered to impose a new registration system for smoking and vaping products entering the country, seeking to improve oversight
The bill will expand the UK's indoor smoking ban to a series of outdoor public spaces, for instance in children's playgrounds, outside schools and hospitals
Most indoor spaces that are designated smoke-free will become vape-free as well
Smoking in designated areas outside pubs and bars and other hospitality settings will remain permissible
Smoking and vaping will remain legal in people's homes
Vaping will become illegal in cars if someone under the age of 18 is inside, to match existing rules on smoking
Advertising for smoking and vaping products will be banned
People aged 18 or older will remain eligible to purchase vaping products, but some items targeted at younger consumers like disposable vapes have already been outlawed as part of the program

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[–] shani66@ani.social 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Cigarettes have a single purpose, they aren't an additive in a product they have no business being in.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 0 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

You aren't legally allowed to sell rat poison to specifically have people put inside their own body. Cigarettes are specifically sold for you to put into your own body.

Just say that you like cigarettes (or work for a tabacco company) and don't want them taken away. Which this type of legislation also wouldn't do. Otherwise, by your logic, let's make every substance in earth legal to package for human consumption by itself. I'm sure when they advertise meth and cyanide cigarettes to kids like they did tobacco for many years, nothing bad will happen.

[–] shani66@ani.social 0 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I neither smoke (tobacco) or work for a tobacco company, and legalizing drugs (objectively a good thing) doesn't imply selling to kids. Just say you have an irrational hated of someone else doing something that doesn't affect you.

[–] JustEnoughDucks@slrpnk.net 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

No, I think governments have a responsibility to protect their citizens against massive corporations using any and all psychological weapons they have at their disposal to harm people.

Again, this proposal is not criminalizing possession or consumption, it is limiting selling. I am all for decriminalizing drugs, but that does not mean that mega corporations that sink literal hundreds of billions into manipulating people and exploiting them should have free reign.

And tobacco affects the most people in the world besides alcohol lol. I know multiple people that have died directly from cigarettes and my mother in law will also likely die directly due to it. That is pretty much the most unlikely assumption to make.

That also isn't even getting into the damage to my own lungs caused by second hand smoke from people around me smoking and infecting an area without my consent. If someone goes around with a knife and starts cutting people up non-lethally, it doesn't make it OK because they are also cutting themselves.