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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

That's just fucking evil. Just pure irrational hatred.

A whole damn country full of psychopaths?

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I've been reading a lot of sociology of how people overcome "bad times" and unsurprisingly the answer is almost always connection. As Israel is fundamentally anti-connection state due to being found on explicit exclusionary principle - it can never overcome "bad times" and will forever be in conflict until this is corrected.

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God's chosen people, with a history of genocides and claiming regions backed up by that god. They wrote their stories as the victors and somehow still manage to sound like the bad guys.

Psychopathy was probably rife in the 12'tribes and I wouldn't be surprised if it started with their dad, Jacob the maid fucker. Actually, probably his granddad, Abraham, the guy willing to kill his son to please god.

Either way, it's been like this for centuries and don't expect the country to suddenly change any time soon. The divine claim to the "land of milk and honey" has been their long-time casus belli for annihilating entire cities and civilisations + now with US protection!

[–] driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.br 16 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Israel != Judaism

Israel is a British/American colonial project, not a religious thing

[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

That's a very ignorant take on history, attempting to disconnect modern day Israel from the Israelites of which also comes Judaism from Israel's son, Judah and that tribe. Though, this has nothing to do with the religion specifically beyond its ideological influence of history.

You never thought as to why the modern state of Israel came to exist as it does? Restoration of 900 BC Israel? It was only later Israel would fall to the Assyrians. Then Judah to the Babylonians. The Canaanites at this point were way gone, Amon, Moab, etc., so the Israelites, as the tribes of Israel, were without homeland. No Israel, no Judah, nothing.

Then the Romans, then the English, blah, blah, blah. Suddenly it's the 1940s...

The British administrative mandate of Palestine—as the British empire just did with little regions all over the world—is coming to an end so they put the proposal to the UN. II's no Kingdom of Judah as well, where Jerusalem formerly was, but most of the landmass is central to the former Kingdom of Israel which was historically more prosperous and "the big one" anyway. Apart from this, it had nothing to do with America. The proposal itself had already been cooking for 30 years prior and the British were happy to execute it with UN agreeance. At times it was looking to go forward before WW2 was even a thing.

Your last statement is just entirely wrong, but it sounds catchy to anyone that's never looked at the history.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

I mean, they invented a religion that places them as God’s chosen people

Can you name a single religion whose creators didn't?

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buddhism. Gnostic Christianity. Hinduism. Probably a whole bunch more, I'm no theologian.

The hideousflaw in the post you're replying to isn't that, though. It's the idea that Israel invented Judaism, that Judaism is a monolith, that Israel is run on Jewish lines, and that Jews everywhere look to Israel for leadership.

That's some fucked-up thinking there. That thinking sucks.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Buddhism

The ones who believe the only way to reach Nirvana is to follow the rigid steps of the Budda and no one else can enter?

A little bit of a stretch, and they have a different idea for "god" but it's the same general idea, just no personification

[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

If you meet the Buddha on the road to enlightenment, kill him.

Does that sound like following the rigid steps of the Buddha is a tenet of Buddhism?

[–] frongt@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 days ago

I think most don't, and even in Judaism it's the more ethno-nationalist (i.e. Zionist) adherents that believe it. Christian nationalists and evangelicals do, but I don't think Protestants or Catholics do. And outside of Abrahamic religions, like Hinduism, at most it's kind of a "we're right you're wrong but idgaf", unless again you're getting into Hindu ethno-nationalism, but then the religion is just an excuse for facism and genocide, which brings us back around again.

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

A whole damn country full of psychopaths?

The current government has cancelled four elections in a row because literally anyone else would easily win...

And the period before Bibi was six years of political upheaval.

Blaming all of Israel for Bibi is like blaming all of America for trump.

Even if those countries were actually fair democracies that doesn't mean everyone agrees with their government

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

On the other hand the responses of Israelis in opinion polls are not encouraging. From last July:

Personal response to the reports from Gaza: From examining the conduct of the state, we moved to a more personal question, asking: “To what extent are you personally troubled or not troubled by the reports of famine and suffering among the Palestinian population in Gaza?” A very large majority of Jewish respondents reported that they are not so troubled or not at all troubled personally by events in Gaza (79%), while the majority of Arabs said that they are very troubled or somewhat troubled (86%).

In the Jewish sample, we found no difference by gender (with 80% of women and 78% of men not troubled), while in the Arab sample we found that women are more troubled than men by the situation in Gaza (women, 92%; men, 80%).

https://en.idi.org.il/articles/60357

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Any time an opinion survey gives 4 options with no neutral answer and then lumps the responses into two categories...

A little alarm bell should go off in your head.

There's also the last part of that section:

On this question as well, we found a much greater degree of concern on the Left for the suffering and hunger in Gaza than in the Center and on the Right.

And now we're getting I to how Bibi's repeated cancelation of elections and open immigration for hard right e tremists and virtually no one else to juice those numbers.

I couldn't find a link to the poll, but it could be the vast majority of that 79% are effected by the standard psychological effects of how that survey was set up that anyone that stumbled past a grad level statistical analysis lecture in a drunken stupor would notice....

In fact, that set off so many of my alarm bells, I took two seconds to click the "about" section, see the guy running it also runs Home Depot, rembered how pro-Israel they are and even found you a source....

https://brusselsmorning.com/does-home-depot-back-israel-role-of-co-founder-bernie-marcus/77666/

You fell for propaganda...

They're intentionally doing surveys that overstate Bibi's support bro.

You think you're hurting them, but you're doing what Israel wants right now, you're spreading their propaganda unintentionally...

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

Hey thanks for doing that critical investigation. Although I posted propaganda and that wasn't smart of me, It's good to know those numbers are likely a misrepresentation and Israelis may not be as thoroughly extreme as that report makes them look.