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What went wrong in Israel? A genocide scholar examines ‘what Zionism became’
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 21 Apr 2026
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Terrible proposal. I have a better solution: Normal people around the world should keep punishing Zionists. Whether that is opening their heads to the truth and move on, or educate them if possible.
TLDR: The more people see how disgusting Zionists are, like you when you posted this comment in another post: "The difference could be the context. Waving Palestinian flags as part of a protest is different than a winner from Israel displaying the Israeli flag. There’s nothing wrong with an Olympic athlete running around with its nation’s flag after a win," the more they will reject them, bully them, avoid giving them a job, avoid helping them, and so on. I am seeing it happen in my city here in Mexico, the local Jews and people who support Israel are being shamed heavily in public and online, and I personally don't feel like interfering. They can't use the Holocaust or October 7 as a defense or excuse anymore.
Interacting with Zionists fucking sucks. Like, you literally said "there is nothing wrong with celebrating having killed at least 72,000+ innocent people and about 200 journalists as a response to an attack that only killed 1,200 of your people" with your comment about waving the flag. Watching Israel's actions from afar is like watching a big brother abusing its little brothers. A big brother that was literally born with an extreme level of narcissism and psychopathy in its brain, 2 traits of the Dark Triad, the ones that make you a sadist that releases dopamine only when you see others suffer first. That's what we're dealing with everywhere.
And then you look at its past, and it's so weird, how obvious the ape-behavior it is: Israel, which is a White Jew Supremacist project (super clearly now. Mask went off in October 8, when you decided to do more than 70+ October 7s on Palestine), was sooo humiliated by Germany in WWII, another white supremacist project, one that actually convinced the world that "they are the good ones," blue-eyed, blonde, attractive, sexy, like high elves from a fantasy novel, while Jews are always depicted as greedy ugly ass goblins... The fact the USA and most of the world did not really gave a fuck about Jews, they only joined the war to stop the Nazis, not really liberate or save the Jews as we don't really do that anywhere, not with the Uyghurs, or everything done in the Middle East under the excuse it is "to save them from the terrorists" has been an obvious unsuccessful lie. To still think all Muslims have some kind of gene or thing in their culture that makes them hate America or Israel "for no good reason. Magically, out of nowhere, hence the reason we must kill them all!" is just pathetic. It's the worst gamble I have seen an entire culture do. They literally just signed their death. People will remember them the same way they remember those tribes made up of irrational violent cannibals that were eradicated in the past. That's how the Jewish culture and religion will be remembered thanks to their relentless support and loyalty to Netanyahu, and they are too brainwashed with the supremacist ideology, by narcissism and pride, that they refuse to see that, so, they continue to further doom the future of their culture by making everyone hate it today.
Like, dude. I hate Hitler, I hate Nazis so fucking much, I hate MAGAs so much. I am a Mexican Lebanese who lost family in Lebanon, Palestine and here in Mexico to the USA and Israel, yet I am aware that Jew != Zionist. American != MAGA. That there are good chill cool Jews out there, genuine innocent ones, despite what the polls online say. I am capable of giving my hand and helping those who actually care about Humanity as a whole, not just a single culture, group or whatever. Yet, Zionists like you have made me think and whisper to myself, out of anger, out of control and heat of the moment for seeing something so blatantly evil like Zionists celebrating the deaths of babies or Palestinian children, attacking Ms Rachel, dude, Ms Fucking Rachel; it's like attacking Elmo, which you're also doing because he did this..., you have made me think: "What if Hitler was right? What if Hitler was the good guy? What if Nazis, who are bitter they lost, who got recruited by the USA through Operation Paperclip, etc., put Netanyahu there to make Jews look bad and further discredit and attempt to destroy the culture in the long-term?" and so much nonsense like that, and for that, fuck you.
The entire world hates you and you just suffered what you call "the worst crime against Humanity, ever," the Holocaust, no more than 100 years ago; so, you took all that rage and resentment on your smaller, vulnerable brothers, the Arabs and Muslims, through the Nakba, 2 years after the Holocaust ended. Only 2 years later and you were already cosplaying the mustache yourselves. Only 2 years and the rape victim became the rapist like Psychology says it happens. You have never attacked or done anything to the Germans, and I always found that weird. You behave like chimps or apes who respect the "strongest" and attack the weak to climb ranks. It's pathetic, and so is religion, which is being used as an excuse for a lot of this behavior. "This land was promised to us!" my balls, it was not. Jesus never meant that, no holy book implies that shit either. It was some stupid random British politician whose name I forgot who said that to win your vote. And it worked so well, you decided to carry that lie and repeat it until it sounded confidently real so you don't have to admit that you were fooled.
The only culture I have respect for is the entirety of Humanity. If you are someone who wants to see only one culture thrive over others, be it the American one, Mexican, Canadian, English, African, Russian, Jewish, Indian, Chinese, Japanese... Whichever it is, you fucking suck and I think you are worthless. You are not a human being to me unless you are someone who doesn't give a fuck about borders or nations anymore. They are just lines and pieces of land people decided to mark because we are still not ready to live as a community, we still are an empire, divided and whatnot. It sucks, but I understand Humanity is also like an entity, like a person. We all make up its personality, we are all a "piece of God's personality." If we all died, there would be no one to praise God, and if he replaced us with new humans, that'd not be real love. So, we are God. Heaven and hell are what we make Earth to be. And to me, cultures and societies can be analyzed the same way you analyze a human being: when they are children, they are more prone to making mistakes and also come across as cold or brutally honest, because children don't know how to measure right or wrong yet. Today, countries seem to behave like edgy teenagers.
Imagine a caveman during the first years human beings existed or appeared, when there was no language. We were fucking violent, we would rape, pillage, kill; but even those cavemen realized that forming communities and villages was the right answer to survive and live a better life, and thanks to those peaceful, better-hearted cavemen, today we have cities, better tech, air conditioners, computers, videogames, etc., instead of still living in caves like dumb violent animals. It was thanks to those human beings with a drive to build that we are here, not those who only want to destroy, like Zionists or Nazis, who are eugenicists with extra steps. You want to get rid of all black people, brown people, Muslims, Arabs, Africans, Asians too. You want everyone to be white and the same as you. That leads to inbreeding, though. That leads to a boring world with no diversity, no variety, no colors; and you'd still have the exact same problems you have today, but no more Muslims or immigrants to blame because you killed them all, so, you start creating divisions among yourselves: the tall vs the short, hairy vs bald, those with blue eyes, those with certain tones of white skin, etc. You are fucking pathetic, and I am tired of tolerating pathetic intolerant fucks like you. The reality is that, good people need to grow a pair of balls and learn how to be more harsh and punish those who are dragging us back so much, like Netanyahu. If we actually lived in a utopia, someone like Netanyahu would've been punished very harshly by the entire world already.
But it's us. We haven't really punished anyone in the Epstein files, or give a fuck enough to at least listen to what the scientists of Wuhan have to say about the accident they had with Covid, which ended killing what some sources say was minimum 7+ million people around the globe, with others saying it's actually 16 - 35+ million, because it became so hard to report accurate numbers during the pandemic... People still cannot decide whether it was a bat, or an accident in the lab. And if it was an accident in the lab, how come we are not questioning or putting more attention on every single employee of that lab? It's so crazy how easy it was to convince people to ignore such a massive punch. Did we even interview them? Ask them what they think about having caused maybe 30+ million deaths? That is 5x times the Holocaust, in just 2 years mind you, around the entire globe. We are not even sure or heard if they will do something so that doesn't happen again, what the fuck? We let them go so easily, so peacefully, why?
Just accept the fact that Zionism is going to die. No way that garbage, along Judaism, Christianity, maybe Buddhism and all religions will die or become the next Santa Claus, one we use to teach good manners and values to children, but then tell them it was fake or forced. "God is what we make it to be," "you don't need religion to be a good person," etc. I keep hearing nothing but negative things about religions everywhere, everyday. They create idiots that behave like MAGAs. They make religious people sound like perpetual Ruby Frankes. F off
Show me where I approved of Israel killing 72,000 Gazans. My proposal would end the Israeli Palestinian conflict with no casualties.
The way you talk about them not having power to resist. The way you talk about Israel being the winner and not talking about any other alternative but tolerating their evildoing. You are a Zionist, and if you are not, you are a benefit to them with the things you say, so, people shouldn't waste their time with you.
Don't tske this guy seriously . He always has dumb proposals
You have to be realistic, otherwise you will just get people killed. Look what Israel did in Gaza.
You cannot talk about being realistic if you are also ignoring the fact that allowing Israel to continue will fuel antisemitism up and that will be even worse for the entire Jewish community at the cost of the Arab community too, for nothing, because in 500 years there is a high chance Israel and other countries won't exist anymore as we know them, all thanks to their actions today, especially with nukes being around 9 countries, no more than 100 years after they were invented. All because a bunch of Zionist morons like you cannot be tolerant and will continue to push the rest to actually go MAD.
You are either an evil demon who already gave up its humanity, a Nazi trying to further get Jewish/innocent people in trouble, a Jeffrey Epstein Class supporter, or an actual retarded Zionist mouth-breathing moron blinded by hatred, which fits everyone who works at the war industry around the globe, like gun manufacturers, the missiles, bombs, airplanes; whoever works building them, even the janitors who clean the engineers' bathrooms so they stay fresh and comfortable while designing the next bomb that will kill some little girls in Iran; they are all equally fucking garbage.
Whichever it is won't matter anyway, people aren't that dumb, they will know how to spot real evil and cull it when it matters the most. If anything, what you are currently doing right now, and what is happening in the entire world thanks to the Internet, is that Humanity is slowly, but safely and steadily reaching a global consensus about what is right, and what is wrong. And cultures who refuse to adapt to that new status quo that will become more noticeable once all baby boomers and the 2 or 3 following generations that still carry the baby boomers' flame will die very quickly. They already are, hence the reason they are being super loud. People fucking hate chaos and destruction, and homophobic people, transphobics, xenophobics, misoginysts, racists, those who are genuinely very violent and too far gone, not South-Park type of edgy black humor humans will forever joke around with because we are jesters, all those motherfuckers will become what pedophiles became today compared to a time like Rome where pedophilia was more open and normalized. That shit is going to happen to the intolerant, and religion is falling behind due to it being used by so many weirdos. People will realize that we shouldn't rely on such things to "control our urges," as you sometimes hear people online say wild shit like "religion is the only thing keeping me from doing pedophilia" and more; we actually need to face them upfront and do something about it before shit gets as bad as it is today, with religious people like you everywhere justifying a fucking genocide, or telling us to let it happen to "calm Israel's rage down." It's unforgivable, plain and simple. The more you keep this stance up, even if you're anonymously online and think you got some kind of safety or plot armor, it won't do, brother. You are helping people prepare themselves for when they meet someone in real life who sound like you, they will know they should socially castrate that person by ignoring them, refusing to help them, refusing to listen to them, simply ignore them until they die to poverty or something. I just talked to someone in YouTube who openly defended Trump and Jeffrey Epstein with so much pride. She literally said this, I will copy and paste it, it's incredible, the garbage I always attract, look:
"You're just as bad if not worse than Epstein for believing in this. The fact that you'd throw people in prison just for guilt by association is foul. This is what actual fascists do. How has Trump specifically treated immigrants? Is there actual proof from those "dozens" of women? See, you'll just say these things and not actually give evidence of him doing anything, because you're a hypocrite who can't prove your own claims.
This isn't how justice works. For someone to be punished, you need proof. You are a fascist. Point blank. You don't care about the rule of law, you don't care about evidence or lack thereof, you only care about politics and destroying your political opponents just Putin, H man, or Stalin did. You are worse than any predator, ever."
She said Trump is innocent regarding the Epstein Files, because there is "no concrete evidence yet" and you can imagine the rest, because you Zionists are experts at doing that when it comes to justifying the IDF or Netanyahu. That's what people are dealing with everyday, and when they lose their shit and write a lot like I do, they get called crazy, or the "meds" insult is pretty fucking trendy right now, not gonna lie. The return of the word "retard" too. Etc. Zionists and MAGAs are the same to me, so, it's just incredible to me how fucking stupid they all are, that they thought it'd be a good idea to be an insufferable piece of shit for over a decade. They thought they'd garner real genuine respect and admiration doing that. I don't get it, lol. Well, I do. You fall for fake influencers like "Emily Hart", an AI instagram MAGA influencer who lonely desperate MAGAs gave thousands of dollars to. It was actually a dude from India, lol. MAGAs and Zionists are lowkey mentally ill, mentally behind, dude. They are so easy to scam and manipulate, I really don't understand why didn't you ever changed the strategy and acted with more class and elegance. You'd be more convincing that way, but no, you actually decided to behave like raunchy trashy redneck motherfuckers who start masturbating their botched egg-like dick in public whenever they hear news about innocent children getting bombed in Gaza. Instead of giving an elaborate and insightful reason as to why we should tolerate Israel, you drop one-liners. Shit's so obvious, you probably think that me reacting like this is what you want, but it's not, because it's something that will cull your identity, and not even the most nihilistic edgy entities ever written in fiction want that.
You are currently serving as some kind of online "training dummy" for silent readers to see and analyze. This is why I don't give a fuck about how angry or crazy or "schizo" I might sound when I write my long ass comments, because I trust good genuine people, those who stay quiet and watch, will grab what works for them. So far, I have given people so much ammo, so many talking points I know Zionists like you cannot properly dismantle and only make you bring up your true colors, which make you seem fucking evil. All these online discourses, as much as many people think they are pointless, silly, or a "waste of time", they are not. As I probably said here before: Heaven and Hell are what we make Earth to be. We are God. If we all die, who would praise God? And, if God replaced us, then, God doesn't really love us, so..., we shouldn't be praising him. He sucks. Religion deserves to die, and Humanity deserves to prevail and thrive over it. We shouldn't fear God, nor listen to nonsensical bullshit like him saying an entire piece of land belongs to who or not. That is, unless we are all God and we all come in agreement that we should give Israel a home, which they already fucking have, but they keep wanting to expand it out of greed and evil, expanding it through violence and death ever since the Nakba in 1948, 3 fucking years after the Holocaust ended, they decided to kill Arabs and displace them from their homes. And for us to see a motherfucker like you coming here and telling everyone to "swallow it up, bro. They should be able to do whatever they want" is fucking dumb as fuck. You are not going to get Jews in problem, only people that are literally like you, you dude, the dude behind the screen, the dude who created the account "panthera_". You have a personality, and so far, it is coming across as heinous, as someone who shows support for a genocide. If you think Humanity as a whole will tolerate that, I am sorry, but I don't think it will. I think people want to be better, and they will prefer peaceful personalities. All I am doing is spilling out everything my head is coming up with, because I believe people know they want to be better, they prefer to laugh, not cry or feel pain, they prefer peace over feeling bullet wounds in their body, they prefer joy and a chill night with the homies, not in a trench, dying for a pedophile like Trump or Netanyahu. It's over, man. The Internet can accelerate the death of evil by so much as long as we keep teaching people to love and always be cool. I don't care if I lose my cool while doing that. Shit has worked for me in real life, it will work for others.
You got nothing left other than be yourself, which you probably know is repulsive, so, just embrace the fact you're trash and move on. Or, change and become better. Everyone here forgets what they read after a day or two. The core essence is what lingers sometimes, like me talking about prioritizing love over anything else, the simple basic easy stuff. It's so easy, just cringe at your past self, and promise your future self you will do better next time; and if you fall, just stand up and try again, we all go through that all the time, it's human. I used to be racist and homophobic when I was a kid and a teenager, but I stopped, felt incredibly ashamed of myself, understood the environment and circumstances, human nature, etc., and I decided to control my urges by myself and now I abhor racists and homophobes, especially those who are fucking 30+ years old, man, like come on, I grew out of that when I was 16, not 20 or 30. We should be investing in education and helping people, not killing them, but well, what should we do if we keep getting pushed to play the same game as you, you know? You want to continue bombing innocent people in Gaza and Iran, so. We have to play as dirty as you, there is no other way. You cannot complain.
Good luck. Hope you learn how to be a human being soon
Netanyahu knows his actions are creating antisemitism worldwide, but he does not care. My proposal would end the conflict between Israel and Palestinians.
Props to you, this is the most unhinged comment I've seen on Lemmy this month
Your president is a pedophile, and you work and pay taxes for him. I rather be unhinged than a demon, thank you. And if you say you are not American, you are still supporting those pedophiles by attacking me without giving something convincing or reasonable as to why I am unhinged. Is it because I write too much or show a lot of passion and conviction which you don't have because you have never truly faced evil in your life? You are just a virgin fatass gamer who spends his life at home and work? You will never know what is it like for the people who will never be heard, so, anything you have to say is pretty worthless
Lmao you're still going. This is why I keep coming to Lemmy