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    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (3 children)

    English is a horrible language full of ambiguity. F/LOSS is libre, but not necessarily gratis.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Isn’t it usually the opposite, gratis (because if it’s open source, you could just build it yourself, unless there’s a proprietary build env or hosted env) but not necessarily libre (because of the license?)

    So wouldn’t gratis normally be the superset of libre.

    Then there’s a set of gratis but not open source… someone should do a venn diagram.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

    I could potentially just say it costs money to use this software, but allow you to build it yourself if you don't want to

    It's called Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) in case you were wondering

    [–] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    RHEL contains non-FOSS components, and so is not FOSS.

    [–] iopq@lemmy.world 1 points 6 hours ago

    Okay, I'd have to think of a more pure example, but you get the idea. Downloads and support not free, but compile it yourself if you want

    [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)
    [–] SpongyAneurysm@feddit.org 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

    It means 'free of charge'. It's an English word, but pretty rare, I think. More common in other languages.

    it's a latin loanword if you want to get all linguistical about it

    [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

    Wait, but persona non gratis can't possibly mean a person who isn't free as in beer, can it? You can't have Me for free, I'll only sell My sex for money.

    [–] Senseless@feddit.org 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

    Not sure if you're joking or not, but it's persona non grata.

    [–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 2 points 1 day ago

    Ohhhh, right, thanks.

    [–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 day ago

    Persona non grata means person not welcome.

    Gratis is free of charge, or you are welcome to take it.

    [–] hakase@lemmy.zip -1 points 1 day ago

    All natural human languages have ambiguity. English is no better or worse than any other.