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I'm not interested in relitigating it here. It's been discussed to death.
Not interested in thinking critically about I think is what you meant.
I meant what I said.
So you come in here and start arguing with me, then when I bring up a salient point, you metaphorically plug your ears and say "nu-uh, I'm leaving."
Way to stand on your principles..
It's a debatable point, unimportant to the greater discussion. Only trolls and dnc ball suckers bring it up. It's equivalent to how magats fixate on Obama's middle name.
Ok, so debate it. I'm hearing both of you saying absolutely zero about it
The whole reason they bring it up all the time is to derail substantive conversation and embroil the community in "what color is the dress" debates instead of talking about genocide. Even "winning" the debate is a losing move because it embraces the distraction and won't keep it from coming up again and again forever.
No, you super this dude like a cult. Like he can do no wrong.
Explain why his knee jerk reaction to tell at his dog whimpering?
Answer that question.
All 3 of you are breathing around the bush and saying "it's debatable" per I'm not willing to debate that" or "I'm willing to debate it, but I'm not going to actually debate it"
I have asked you 3 a crystal clear question, answer it.
I already said that I don't even watch his streams, so what the fuck are you talking about?
Hassan himself explained it, and it's easy enough to look up for anyone interested.
The way you are glazing him so much, I'm going to call you a liar. I believe you listen to him quite frequently.
Glazing him? I haven't said one word praising him for anything. You are a ridiculous troll.
That's not what I said either. It's enough for me to point out that the "facts" as you present them aren't uncontested. I trust rational folks to go look for themselves. Nothing you or I bicker about here would or should be relevant to what they find. I also note that there are probably tens of thousands of hours of Hassan streaming with that dog in the background, and if there were a single other incident indicating that Hassan routinely tortures it, his detractors would certainly have surfaced it by now.
What I will point out is that, were we to swallow this junk wholesale, a "lesser of two evils" comparison between Hassan and his establishment detractors would still put him miles ahead. Shock collars are awful, but not genocide levels of awful. The talking heads reading AIPAC scripts against Hassan are literally motivated by support for a genocidal regime. Re-litigating old and seriously disputed claims is distraction at best.
Ok, so you admit he likely shocked his dog?
Thank you, that's all I was asking. This isn't dinner grand political debate. Like I already mentioned, 8 agree with Hassan on a great many things. But y'all gotta stop worshipping him like the second coming. He's correct, doesn't mean he's perfect.