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[–] tacosanonymous@mander.xyz 11 points 3 days ago (11 children)

Would be super cool if privacy mattered to these companies.

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Honest question though: what of real value can a company gain by knowing that I turned my oven to 350, or that I switched my air conditioning on? Assuming app permissions match what's needed and I'm not giving up my contacts or whatever. Or is that a more common issue than I realize?

[–] musicjunkie@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Would you be comfortable if there were cameras set up in your house feeding to an unknown entity somewhere higher up the economic food chain whose mission is to find ways to extort you for money? Privacy used to be something many people wanted purely for the sake of privacy without any ulterior motive

To me, it’s rather surprising that people don’t just have an instinctual desire to maintain a degree of privacy in their lives. I dont really want people watching and tracking how often I use my air fryer what times I go grocery shopping etc as it literally feels like I’m being spied on. It’s not about having something to hide it’s about protecting something that’s core to the American identity and has been for centuries. Plus these companies are notorious for data breaches and running psychological experiments on people based on personal data collected on them. I’d rather not be a lab rat for some reptilian tech billionaire and I’ll just preheat my oven manually

You can’t think about what this information does right now to your eye. You have to remember that this data is someday going to be completely categorized via AI and same as we couldn’t predict life post-internet, there’s no telling how problematic it might be to your life to have a more robust profile of your personal information than a more private person once AI has fully taken over society. Your life patterns likely tell a lot more about you as a person than you realize which means they are getting way more from you than merely the temperature of your thermostat. Humans are way more patterned in their behavior than our grade school teachers telling us we are unique and special might lead us to believe

[–] spongebue@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, I'm not talking about cameras. I'm asking about my oven not because I think I shouldn't care about it, but because I genuinely want to know why I should. Like, I can't imagine some algorithm is saying "guys, this guy set his oven to 350 an hour before dinner, we got him!"

[–] musicjunkie@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

Yeah like I explained, you can’t comprehend the degree of how much of your personal life is exposed by data points deemed trivial. The data collectors believe in the value of your privacy as a marketable commodity so to me that’s enough reason. If Palantir thinks harvesting data on how and when I cook can provide them with even more valuable private information then that’s probably the case

For all you know, people who use lemmy and preheat their oven to 350 on tuesdays and listen to XYZ music fall into a category of humans that allows them to also know your romance life and how to best target you in vulnerable areas of your life in ways you don’t immediately identify

The reason to value your privacy isn’t “what is the first order effect of giving this information”. Privacy should be valued because you can’t ever get it back and can’t know the future so why bother giving up something that tech companies spend billions gathering from you just to save a 10sec walk to the kitchen. It’s never been about having things to hide or the mundane of what time you turn on your lights

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